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 Posted:   Oct 13, 2014 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)





Beam over to harlanellison.com's Message Board for further hailing healing frequency updates ...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2014 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

There have been numerous posts on Facebook by Josh Olson, David Gerrold, and others.

Harlan is paralyzed on one side. His mental faculties are unimpaired, and was evidently cracking jokes with the nurses.

Here's hoping he has a speedy recovery.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2014 - 11:32 PM   
 By:   IHaveAWeirdBeard   (Member)

If you're daft enough to crack jokes at a Disney lunch about making a furry porn movie, within earshot of the executives, you DESERVE to get fired.

And also die.

Disgusting man.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 12:01 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Disgusting man.

Dear Kettle,
You are black.
Love, Pot.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 2:09 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)


And also die. Disgusting man.


Crawl back into your troll hole.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

Anyone daft enuff to post such a despicable diatribe is already HUMANLY BANKRUPT utterly beyond belief.

Do everyone a favor and stay off and far away from this or we'll report your ass as High Up as it can go for the insolent insensitivity you so stupidly display ...

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Hey c`mon, relax people. I can live with differing views of X people. Thats part of what these forums are about. Re. Mr. Ellison specifically, I could certainly see him uttering things that may not be the most ambassadorial at certain times, in the presence of Disney folk. Part of him might do it for nothing more than a generic spite of what is acceptable, another part might be that having come through a stroke, or being older, he might exercise less concern about what other people think.

Beneath the hatred (where evident), everyone who has posted is valid to some degree. Lets stay civil if we can, lest we vindicate the expectations of cynics and prove the human race to indeed be incapable of worthwhile thought.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Dear Warlok,

I, too, have always tried to be a voice for civility here at the Board. So with all due and sincere respect, I would suggest that there was nothing civil about the way Mr. Beard expressed himself in his gratuitous post.

PNJ

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

THANK U.

[ it never ceases to amaze us the cyber cowards who spew such vile and rarely contribute anything affirmative equal to it. The above ranks up there with the < I HATE YOU < affectionate appreciation we once received on the Other Syde. And he's still here posting with impunity, also ].

So, please - no more.

If you haven't anything to offer of optimistic vintaged value, include yourself OUT ...

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Harlan has specialized in being vigorously iconoclastic; a quality we should all shoot for, in our own way.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)



Beneath the hatred (where evident), everyone who has posted is valid to some degree. Lets stay civil if we can, lest we vindicate the expectations of cynics and prove the human race to indeed be incapable of worthwhile thought.


What that bozo posted was over the line.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Ellison is a complete and total ass. I personally witnessed him being unaccountably nasty and rude to people for no justifiable reason whatsoever.

However...yes I have read and enjoyed many of his works. His non fiction rants are, for me, better than his fiction. The two volumes of The Glass Teat are treasures.

And the guy is a human being. Not a monster. An asshole, yeah, but I wish the guy a full recovery. My S/O has suffered from a stroke and it can be a long road back depending on the severity.

My best wishes go to Harlan. Even if I disagree with his manner and some of his outspoken zaniness... the guy is just a guy. Like us.

That "deserves to die" comment was shitty and crude.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Thank you, Mike. Everyone knows that Mr. Ellison is not a shrinking violet, and I'm sorry that anyone you witnessed had to suffer from his thoughtlessness. There's no excuse for hurting anybody's feelings like that.

That said, I just want to put forth that, as you are good to acknowledge, Mr. E. is human and, being human, is just as capable as the rest of us humans at acting at times like an asshole, and, at other times, acting like an angel. Or should I say, perhaps, that all of us assholes are capable of being human? I guess I'm trying to say that I identify with the fellow who first said that we should all be judged as much for our best moments as our worst ones. Peace.

A friend just shared with me the following, from MARK EVANIER's Blog:

Just got home. I was going to write up a piece about what I did today but I see on Facebook that my pal Alan Brennert already posted something I can steal. A number of writers have done very well stealing from Alan. Here's what he wrote…

So today my pal Mark Evanier and I went to see my old friend and colleague Harlan Ellison, who is recovering from a stroke he suffered last week. This was without a doubt the cheeriest, often laugh-out-loud funniest, hospital visit I've ever paid. Harlan's right arm and leg may be paralyzed, but his mind and wit definitely are not. He kept answering the phone, "Hello, Just This Side of Death, how can I help you?" and continued in his futile attempts to explain who Vera Hruba Ralston was to the very efficient, very nice, very young doctors and nurses caring for him.

Mark and I showed up as Harlan was finishing his physical therapy, and we were soon joined by David Gerrold and Josh Olson and his wife Nancy Himmel. There was much more comedy, but we'll be releasing the entire session on CD and iTunes as Harlan: Live From the Stroke Ward on the Edgeworks label. No, I made that up, but we could have. It was great to see Harlan in such fine form after what could have been such a debilitating injury.

I don't have much to add except that Harlan is doing fine and it was not unamusing to see the puzzled looks of the nurses and orderlies who were trying to pretend they understood two-thirds of what he said. Merry as the room was, it reminded me of the scene in All That Jazz where Joe Gideon turns his hospital room into a 24/7 party with interesting visitors and scintillating conversation. I assume Harlan will be going home soon. If not, I'll go back and enjoy more of the best show in town.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 3:47 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Excellent post, Preston.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2014 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

My pleasure, sir.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2014 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

"Yr Uncle Harlan" has done some questionable things over the years - how he... handled Connie Willis in 2006 is nothing short of improper if not digusting - but he is, as others pointed out here, human. And with that he is the last of the great writers from that era. One would assume someone laid back like Asimov would've outlived a firebrand like Ellison but its the other way around.

I've always been a big fan of his work and his attitude. He often yells at people but its often about people blundering and not because he's a misanthrope per se. Theres a quote from him back ten years ago that explains him perfectly: "It is my hope that all of you who walk down the street with an iPod plugged into your head are hit by a Seven Santini Brothers moving van. I look down on a lot of you … not because you’re not terrific people, but because you’re not stupid, you’re ignorant. Big difference. Ignorance is never having seen a film by Akira Kurosawa. It’s not knowing who Guy de Maupassant is." He draws the line but people often can't see it when he's spewing references and tone all over the place.

One assumes the people in this thread have seen the documentary Dreams With Sharp Teeth (sadly no longer on Netflix Streaming). This trailer is full of foul language but ... well, what do you expect from the man? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwEr942gMY

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2014 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

I've seen DREAMS WITH SHARP TEETH, but I'm unfamiliar with the Willis/Ellison history. Would you please care to elaborate? Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2014 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

As Adrian Monk would say, "Here's what happened."

http://scendan.livejournal.com/586135.html

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2014 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Though I am not denying the details in that Livejournal entry nor that person's right to speak their mind as they so choose - I'd like to point out there *is* some heavy agenda pushing and opinion to that post.

It should be obvious to most but, just as clarification, the facts should outweigh the tone and not the other way around.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2014 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

YouTube is our friend. Here's exactly what happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxd1jFDXzsU

 
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