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I once owned the OUR MAN FLINT LP back in the early 80s from a second hand store. Although I enjoyed the album, I am a purest when it comes to the actual music from the film.
Varece's version offered that sound which was a nice Christmas gift for me back in the late 90s. However, there are some tracks not on that CD. The original IN LIKE FLINT LP has the No Rest For the Weary track which is one of my favorite action scores from this film. This was left off of the Varese version. Also, the final fight between General Carter and Flint inside the space capsule is another track I would love to have on CD. None of the CDs have this track from Silva, Varese, Tsunami, and Intrada.
However, for those who really want the film tracks, Twilight Time Blu-Ray has a separate audio track of nearly all the music. Including one track that is not in the ILF film at all. Listening to this the other night on my mega sound system is fantastic and for those who want it all - Intrada, Varese and Twilight, I can't recommend it any higher.
So thank you Intrada for working hard to get the LP version released in better sound than Tsunami's version. Perhaps one day we can have all the music on one major release for those of us who want it all.
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If by "Goldsmith unique LP recordings," you mean those with only Goldsmith music (as opposed to THE LONELY GUY, which also has pop songs), you are correct.
Some people, however, still believe that THE SWARM LP deserves a separate release because of the numerous edits of the original tracks that went into the creation of that album.
I meant exactly what I said -- the *recordings* are unique, ie. separately recorded from the film sessions. I hesitate to always refer to them as "rerecordings" like most people do, because they were in many cases recorded around the exact same time as the sessions for what was used in the film so it's not like what Goldsmith did with Varese (and a couple albums for Intrada including the superb Rio Conchos/Artist Who Did Not Want to Paint).
I think I may just start a new topic about this soon, but unlike The Swarm (which just had unique edits and perhaps different takes from those used in the film, but from the same sessions) I'm referring to stuff like these, all completely separate recordings from the film versions:
Stagecoach
The Trouble with Angels
Damien: Omen II
Justine
Wild Rovers
The Last Run
Capricorn One
Hour of the Gun
Patton
QB VII
The Prize (only 5 tracks...the 5th of which wasn't on the original LP but FSM rescued as a bonus on their Poltergeist release)
Masada (I think this was the last, chronologically)
and of course these two Flint albums.
I may have missed one or two (was MacArthur different from the film recordings? Lilies of the Field?), and of course there are some titles like Sebastian and Under Fire where there were some unique versions of cues recorded specifically for the album (and were not used in the film), but those were still done at the regular film sessions rather than as a whole separate recording for LP.
Since their Mainstream CD issue is getting a bit old, I would love a reissue of The Trouble with Angels from one of our current labels (hopefully with the film recording too if it survives) and would probably buy a remastered reissue of Stagecoach (LLL missed an opportunity to make their beautiful looking reissue definitive by including the different LP recording as well). The Masada LP recording also really needs a new release because the old CD version had mastering errors. But I'm pretty sure that these two Flint LPs were the very last unique Goldsmith LP recordings that hadn't made it to CD yet.
Yavar
[Edit P.S.: I just realized I didn't address The Lonely Guy. I of course know that it is the last remaining Goldsmith score represented on LP but not CD, and I know it only has a little bit of score plus a song he participated in -- in order to fit in with what I was referring to, were those score bits recorded specifically for the LP or were they from the film recordings?]
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I just saw this post and my jaw hit the floor. Been waiting for this one Intrada.
Greg Espinoza
Say what?
brm
How musch more do you need??????
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For the record, here are all of the original music cues compiled from the the two Flint Blu-Ray isolated scores, orchestrated by Arthur Morton. All cues not found on the old Varese CD are indicated with an asterisk. Titles which can be found on the new Intrada release of the original LPs bear the same names below, but be aware that Goldsmith made new arrangements (by Arthur Morton and Warren Barker on Our Man Flint; Marty Paich, Lawrence Morton and Warren Barker on In Like Flint), expanded or made minor edits of these for the LPs. ("Galaxy A Go-Go" below, based on the Our Man Flint Theme, is not the version co-written with Randy Newman for the LP.)
OUR MAN FLINT
1. Our Man Flint
2. The Quest
3. Man Does Not Live By Bread Alone
4. New York Skyline
5. Why Would Anyone Want To Kill Mr. Cramden?*
6. I’ll Need A Few Hours To Prepare*
7. Stopwatch, Please*
8. Marseille! Bouillabaisse!*
9. I Have My Own Jet*
10. Working With Triple-O 8*
11. A Bit Of Research
12. 72-46-49*
13. Flint’s Four Weaknesses*
14. The Exotica Beauty Factory*
15. Tell Me More About That Volcano
16. You Are Prepared To Take Some Risks, Mr. Flint?
17. In Like Flint
18. Cracking The Safe*
19. Trapped*
20. Instant Street Café*
21. Safe Travel*
22. Headed For A Family Reunion*
23. Galaxy Island*
24. Forklift Fatality*
25. All I Have To Do Is Take A Bite Of Your Apple? (Music-and-effects)*
26. Diabolical Eagle*
27. Galaxy Leaders*
28. The Preparation Room*
29. Rescuing Gila*
30. Never Mind, You’ll Love It
31. Galaxy A Go-Go*
32. Doing As The Romans Do*
33. Drive-In Theater*
34. You’re A Foolish Man, Mr. Flint
35. Fight With Rodney*
36. It’s Gotta Be A World’s Record
37. Stall Dammit, Stall… Flint’s Alive! / End Titles
38. The Boilermaker (Outtake)
39. Presidential Ringtone*
IN LIKE FLINT
1. In Like Flint (Introduction)*
2. Where The Bad Guys Are Gals
3. Come Along, Ladies*
4. Operation Duffer*
5. The Golf Lesson
6. Get Me That Book On Dogs (aka Get Flint on the Varese)
7. Ah, It’s A Toy*
8. The Painting*
9. Dinner At Luigi’s*
10. Shady Lady*
11. Hail To The Chief*
12. Skydive Rendezvous*
13. Hypnotizing Cramden*
14. Aah, Yer Father’s Bob-Lip
15. Uninvited Guest
16. Mince And Cook Until Tender
17. Requiem For Flint*
18. Ballet Music
19. Hip Music*
20. Odin, Dva, Tri, Kick!
21. Destination Virgin Islands*
22. Swim Like Flint*
23. Who Was That Lady…?*
24. The Deep Freeze
25. Ladies Will Kindly Remove Their Hats
26. Unannounced… But Not Unexpected*
27. Your Zowie Face (Spanish Version)*
28. No Rest For The Weary*
29. Shattering Escape*
30. Westward Ho-o-o!
31. Operation Smooch*
32. Lost In Space
33. Zero Gravity Fight*
34. It’s Flint! He’s Alive! / End Titles (Your Zowie Face)
35. Your Zowie Face (English Version) (Outtake)
36. Sound Wave Effect*
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Oct 16, 2014 - 8:41 AM
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Gold Digger
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Apparently they were both released on one CD (certainly on LP - and cassette, which I have) by Silva Screen in the '90s.
No, I'm almost certain that was LP (and cassette) only. I remember thinking it was very peculiar at that time to not have a CD release.
Soundtrack Collector has a listing for a Silva Screen CD, but without a UPC code or picture, it's most likely a phantom listing. Here's the LP cover:
You are right, this Silva Screen release absolutely NEVER came out on CD. It DID come out on LP, but only LP. To this day, I remember when it was announced and was disappointed that a CD was not forthcoming. This was about, what, 1988? When we got our release notices in printed newsletters and catalogues delivered in the mail? (Ha ha!) Silva Screen were still doing some LP only releases around this time, which seemed odd as CD had by then taken off. Another LP only release they did around this time was the reissue of "Patton".
I did watch for a follow-up CD for a while, because in those days the CD release sometimes followed some time after the LP rather than being at the same time. For instance, I'm pretty sure (but *could* be mistaken) that Silva Screen's CDs of "Alien", "Damien—Omen II" and "Zulu" (all from around the same time) came a little time after their LPs had been issued. But, like I said, I *could* be mistaken. It was, after all more than twenty-five years ago.
Mr. Fitzpatrick might recall. He was Mister Silva Screen at this time.
Cheers
I remember Silva fully intended to issue a CD of the Flint albums as well as Patton and the Sand pebbles. But even though they had managed to license Damien and Alien for CD for some odd reason they were not allowed to issue these three LP programs on CD. I seem to remember this was a source of frustration for Silva as this was at the height of the CD craze.
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Oct 16, 2014 - 9:45 AM
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CinemaScope
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I remember Silva fully intended to issue a CD of the Flint albums as well as Patton and the Sand pebbles. But even though they had managed to license Damien and Alien for CD for some odd reason they were not allowed to issue these three LP programs on CD. I seem to remember this was a source of frustration for Silva as this was at the height of the CD craze.
I did phone up Silva Screen at the time to ask about a CD release, as I'd lost interest in LP's & was CD mad (still am), & may well have spoken to James Fitz, & was told, it's coming, but it never did come. I think Polygram are the villains here, in 1982 they bought the Fox record catalogue from Fox...& then just sat on it! The world was CD mad then, & all those soundtrack albums just sitting in a vault somewhere. And then in 1995 Polygram became Universal Music group (along with a few other record labels), but things were just as bad re licensing out titles until Intrada did a deal, & a lot of these albums started to see the light of day. Thank god for small specialist record labels.
...& still a lot of unreleased (on CD) soundtrack albums in the UMG vaults.
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The Varese also contains the uncut film recordings of "Westward Ho!" and "Stall! Stall! Flint's Alive" (in the films and in the isolated scores, there is a major cut in the music for the former cue and a minor cut in the latter), plus the unused English choral version of "Your Zowie Face" (a Spanish version was featured in the middle of the film).
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That was quick!
The CD sounds amazing. Sonically and as far as the mix goes, it blows away the Varese CD.
The Varese is still worth hanging onto, of course. There are some tracks not present here. I also have a soft spot for the film version "Ladies Will Kindly Remove Their Hats."
This is great, though. Highly recommended if you like spy music in general or these scores in particular.
I am so glad you like it!
bruce
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Very fun albums both. Hope everyone who wanted one, got one! (If not, you might check other dealers like SAE or MovieMusic who might have remaining stock.)
Now I'm just hoping the complete film recordings are released by Varese some day...
Yavar
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The VS has the superior main title.
It has that bop-bap-bop! Brass hit plus the speeded up keyboard part that precede the bossa nova opening of the Intrada..
Btw The Boilermaker is not an outtake. iirc it is the music heard in the Go-Go club.
Brm
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