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 Posted:   Oct 22, 2014 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I'm starting to get antsy. Usually there's a new Star Trek TV series coming or going or generally fogging up the airwaves. And here there isn't right now.

"Star Trek Babies", maybe?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2014 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

I'm sad that there isn't ANY space based Sci-Fi TV show on air at the moment. A few shows with Aliens (Defiance, Falling Skyes are two that come to mind), but they are all centered around Earth. There is nothing actually set in Space that I'm aware of, certainly nothing like Star Trek, Babylon 5 or Firefly and I think thats a massive shame.

I had hoped Star Wolf, which had a Kickstarter last year to fund at least a pilot, failed to go anywhere. The KS barely made any cash.

I'd much rather have that sort of show than yet another CSI/NCIS/Police Procedural.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2014 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Indeed it is time for a new Trek TV series.

Here's a great, somewhat long, article about this & how Paramount & CBS need to wake up to what they've got:

http://trekmovie.com/2014/10/09/why-star-trek-is-paramounts-marvel-and-they-dont-even-know-it/

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2014 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

There's a group of people on Facebook trying to bring Enterprise back on Netflix. I've never saw this happening but it's a nice idea.

They've illuminated some details, though they may simply be scuttlebutt fantasy with the correct proper nouns.

Apparently, the television and film aspects of Trek are separate entities in some fashion. CBS wants to appeal to long-time Trek fans and is apparently somewhat ... disdainful of the Abrams films. They want to make a new Trek show...

However, their wishes run against Paramount's wishes to keep the Bad Robot train going (despite the fact that Paramount and Bad Robot had a falling out after the 2009 film) because the big films make the big money.

So you have two sides betting on different sides of the same material. It's a stalemate.

Trek will eventually come back. Personally, I hope it's more like TOS / ENT and less like the glib Abrams crapola.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2014 - 10:10 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

I'm not sure yet the time is ripe for another Trek series (that'll do well), but I wish it were. The rebooted novels, pretty much the only thing left exploring the Prime timeline, have introduced some amazing stories and ideas that could be integrated into a new post-Nemesis series. Ideally, it could start as a miniseries based on the Destiny novel trilogy, which would serve to give a (good) send-off to the TNG cast and set the stage for a new series following a new ship and crew in the Typhon Pact era of the Alpha/Beta Quadrants.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2014 - 10:22 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

According to Wikipedia, there are now 726 episodes of the various Star Trek series. So they could get a series started with a new ship and crew, fly off to a new fictional region of space, but quickly find that they're exploring story-space where many have gone before.

It would take brilliant writers to give us an exciting, new Trek series, and in television, brilliance tends to be for niche audiences. Maybe if AMC or HBO were to do it in a daring way, you'd have something, but I don't think that will happen. And if it did, a LOT of the franchise's existing fans would hate it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2014 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

IMO, they don't even need to go and find a new fictional region of space. The late 24th-century Federation and its neighboring Empires, Hegemonies, Coalitions, Assemblies and whatnot make up a massive region of space and contains a lot of potential for new stories. There are alien species that have barely been explored (Tholian, Breen, Gorn), not explored at all (Tzenkethi) or criminally underused in intelligent stories of late (Romulan).

You're right that we'd need great writers with equally great ideas to make a new series, but I think it's probably possible to pull off without resorting to cable (none of those channels would probably ever want Trek anyway, and I doubt CBS would ever give it up). Manny Coto did a great job with the final season of Enterprise, and there are some great writers working on the current series of Trek novels (I found it hard to believe myself at first, given the low quality of most Trek novels from the 90s).

I doubt a new Trek series will happen for quite some time, whatever form it ends up taking, but it's nice to dream.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2014 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Maybe they could re-boot the same way they did Battlestar Galactica: add a lot of dirt, nudity and blue lighting.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2014 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Don't forget the hideous cinematography!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2014 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Star Trek is innately a television product, it is in it's genetic code.
The movies are entertainment, but not really much Star Trek anymore.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2014 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

The milk from this particular cow started to run out in NEXT GENERATION season six, though DEEP SPACE NINE and VOYAGER had some legit episodes.

STAR TREK began to suffer from having explored its universe too much, and a lot of the mystery got lost, especially with all the generic species, dominions, etc.

To do worthwhile TREK will require fleshing out concepts going back to the original series that can support a movie-length treatment (think BREAD AND CIRCUSES, and A PRIVATE LITTLE WAR) and doing retro-faithful widescreen movies that capture the look and feel of the original series.

To be frank, after the facile J.J. treatment, only that kind of hardcore commitment could win me back.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2014 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

The milk from this particular cow started to run out in NEXT GENERATION season six, though DEEP SPACE NINE and VOYAGER had some legit episodes.
STAR TREK began to suffer from having explored its universe too much, and a lot of the mystery got lost, especially with all the generic species, dominions, etc.
To do worthwhile TREK will require fleshing out concepts going back to the original series that can support a movie-length treatment (think BREAD AND CIRCUSES, and A PRIVATE LITTLE WAR) and doing retro-faithful widescreen movies that capture the look and feel of the original series.
To be frank, after the facile J.J. treatment, only that kind of hardcore commitment could win me back.



This could have come from my keyboard (except that I think TNG Season 7 had some good moments occasionally).
But sometimes, I confess, I get antsy too.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2014 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

If they've run out of ideas, maybe they could do like they did for "The Odd Couple" and do other versions:

Female Star Trek
Black Star Trek

smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2014 - 11:00 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I'm not sure how NBC is doing these days, but a few years ago, when it was the least watched network, I kept thinking, "Why don't they do the obvious, right an old wrong, and just bring back 'Star Trek'?"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

An all singing and dancing Star Trek, with a gay love story between first officer and captain.

Sure to be a hit!

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

An all singing and dancing Star Trek, with a gay love story between first officer and captain.

Sure to be a hit!


Sorry, but the Abrams/Kurtzman/Orci triumvirate didn't want to make it too autobiographical. Only an incestuous triangle of bad scripting, plotting, and directing could have given us stillborn TREK the likes of which we'll probably be suffering for the next decade.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)


However, their wishes run against Paramount's wishes to keep the Bad Robot train going (despite the fact that Paramount and Bad Robot had a falling out after the 2009 film) because the big films make the big money.


Some falling out, that!

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Maybe PBS and the NY Met could do the scrapped opera version that Goldsmith had proposed.

If he didn't write music, maybe they could just cannibalize the umpteen series' music.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2014 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   SOSAYWEALL   (Member)

What a new Star Trek t.v. series needs are good writers & producers who aren't Rick Berman, Brannon Braga or the usual Bad Robot writers. Star Trek needs creative people who are not going to write dull predictable stories (like the last two t.v. series that went nowhere) & blame the audience for not watching. Star Trek needs good writers and producers that are not afraid to dare to tell great stories with great characters & push the envelope.

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2014 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Enterprise was a missed opportunity. I could have worked because it would have focused on human drama and familiar technology. Both real and fictional already established in the ST universe.

TOS was ahead of its time in the 60's. Next Generation and the movies were behind the times in scientific advances. A new Star Trek should look a lot different than the old Star Trek. I can imagine a lot of scientific advances that would make living in the future much different that what we have seen in the spin off series and movies.

Don't do another ST unless the powers are brave enough to advance the concept of the series.

 
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