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 Posted:   Nov 2, 2014 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Don't do another ST unless the powers are brave enough to advance the concept of the series.

Maybe what's needed is a Star Trek show made for HBO, so they can say "fuck" a lot. That would be edgy, a Star Trek show that takes place on the edges of the Federation -- on the frontier as in "Deadwood," and involving fighting a criminal alien organization like "The Sopranos." Star Trek Empire.

 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2014 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Don't do another ST unless the powers are brave enough to advance the concept of the series.

Maybe what's needed is a Star Trek show made for HBO, so they can say "fuck" a lot. That would be edgy, a Star Trek show that takes place on the edges of the Federation -- on the frontier as in "Deadwood," and involving fighting a criminal alien organization like "The Sopranos." Star Trek Empire.


A little more edgy is fine but not Soprano's edgy. Everything is too harsh, raw and grim nowadays. What I want to see is a new updated vision of what the future could be like. Spaceships and people who can heal themselves, climate controlled clothing, personal force fields, self transportation, thought links between other people and machinery. The ideas are endless...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2014 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

What a new Star Trek t.v. series needs are good writers & producers who aren't Rick Berman, Brannon Braga or the usual Bad Robot writers. Star Trek needs creative people who are not going to write dull predictable stories (like the last two t.v. series that went nowhere) & blame the audience for not watching. Star Trek needs good writers and producers that are not afraid to dare to tell great stories with great characters & push the envelope.

I totally agree. I was (and still am) a huge fan of TOS, But TNG lost me around about season 3 (with the sceptic not of a few standout episodes), found DS9 dull as anything (those characters were just unlikeable), Voyager wasn't too bad and held my interest and gave up on Enterprise after the first few episodes.

Is it really so hard to come up with a Trek series that has likeable and interesting characters, that actually do some exploring of strange new worlds and new civilisations rather than being all introspective and moody?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2014 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

If they attempt anything they should really do a loyal to TOS, STAR FLEET ACADEMY showing the young Kirk and crew's beginnings.

No J.J. Abrahms young crew crap where everything is discombobulated and Uhura "is doing" Spock in an alternate timeline, garbage.

Hire a bunch of unknowns who really capture the essence of the original cast and DO IT RIGHT!

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

An all singing and dancing Star Trek...

Or maybe just partly: Starfleet Academy meets GLEE!

Wheee!!! big grin

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2014 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

An all singing and dancing Star Trek...

Or maybe just partly: Starfleet Academy meets GLEE!

Wheee!!! big grin



We've seen that idea flop before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cop_Rock

Scotty: "It's risky, but it just might work."

Kirk: "We've got to take that one in ten thousand chance!"

 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)



We've seen that idea flop before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cop_Rock


Oh, maybe it was just police who don't adapt well to singing.

They don't make good fish... big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Here is my idea:

The show is called "VSF Hall." VSF stands for Veterans of Star Fleet.

The show features the surviving actors from the original series, in their original roles, hanging out a VSF hall, much like a VFW hall. They reminisce about the old days and complain about their various ailments and lack of finances.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

The best idea was actually from Harve Bennett for a Star Trek movie. It was going to be about StarFleet Academy. But of course they shot him down on that, but it would make a better series than a movie anyway.

I can imagine a Starfleet Academy TV show working pretty well, assuming a good cast and writer team.

 
 Posted:   Nov 11, 2014 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The best idea was actually from Harve Bennett for a Star Trek movie. It was going to be about StarFleet Academy. But of course they shot him down on that, but it would make a better series than a movie anyway.

I can imagine a Starfleet Academy TV show working pretty well, assuming a good cast and writer team.


Yes, I was so looking forward to this when the idea was first bounced around.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2020 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Now that the new series is here, it's really time for a new movie, if you ask me.

And I mean a movie with the Voyager cast, not these Bechdel-test-failing prequels, fer Kendall's sake.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2020 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

The best idea was actually from Harve Bennett for a Star Trek movie. It was going to be about StarFleet Academy. But of course they shot him down on that, but it would make a better series than a movie anyway.

I can imagine a Starfleet Academy TV show working pretty well, assuming a good cast and writer team.


Yes, I was so looking forward to this when the idea was first bounced around.


I would have liked to see Harve Bennett's version. But yeah, at that point in Trek's life, the fans were able to shoot everything down by the power of bitchery.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2020 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

In CBS/Paramounts wisdom to make Star Trek "mainstream" they've essentially killed the property. Star Trek is dead. It doesn't exist anymore and it will probably never recover. They can slap the name Star Trek or Picard on this garbage all they want, but it's not Star Trek.

Just like Star Wars, the fandom and the merchanting side of things are what kept these series alive, and no one is buying this new stuff. There will always be demand for classic Trek and Star Wars stuff though. So not only did they kill Star Trek and alienated the core fans, they've killed the lucrative merchandising business for Nu Trek.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2020 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

How about STAR TREK: THE FINAL RETIREE

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2020 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"Star Trek: What's So Unusual About Not Having Died Yet?".

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2020 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

In CBS/Paramounts wisdom to make Star Trek "mainstream" they've essentially killed the property.

At the same time, there aren't enough Trek fans to support films and the average audience member seems to only like time travel.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2020 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

In CBS/Paramounts wisdom to make Star Trek "mainstream" they've essentially killed the property.

At the same time, there aren't enough Trek fans to support films and the average audience member seems to only like time travel.


Actually we were bitching about the Abrams time rift (whether it was incorporated in the new Picard series), wishing that the time line was "restored" as it often was in the various series. Except there are several "unrestored" time travel episodes. I was randomly reminded of the NextGen episode with Worf's son today, which may or may not have changed the timeline. The point was more about the audience getting teary eyed by the conclusion (at least for me).

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2020 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

In CBS/Paramounts wisdom to make Star Trek "mainstream" they've essentially killed the property.

At the same time, there aren't enough Trek fans to support films and the average audience member seems to only like time travel.


I think 2 and 4 showed you can do successful Trek films that satisfy fans and the general audience.
What I object to is focusing solely on the general audience with just some nostalgia or memory berries for the fans.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2020 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Here's what REAL Star Trek has:
Heart.

That's how we cranky oldsters know if a new iteration is or isn't complete cack--if it has heart or not.

 
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