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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1      Non-Film Score Discussion: Lost in Translation (2003) with Bill Murray   Last Post   Posted:   Oct 28, 2014 - 1:25 AM     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member) I just saw LOST IN TRANSLATION. Going in, I knew nothing about it except that it got a 95-critics/86-audience score at Rotten Tomatoes, which is phenomenal, so it seemingly had to be worth my time. Now can somebody explain to me what people liked so much? I was bored to tears. This is a film in which nothing happens and the characters have nothing interesting to say. I'm pretty sure most or all of Murray and Johansson's dialog was ad libbed, and they could barely think of anything to say because there are settings but no events in the story. And yet (I now know) this movie hauled in 30 times its budget. So can anybody explain this? What am I missing? [For newbies: highlight the blacked-out text to see spoilers.]    Posted:   Oct 28, 2014 - 1:53 AM     By:   Mr Greg   (Member) When this movie was first advertised in the UK, it was being marketed as a comedy....I went to the cinema to see it expecting a good laugh....and whilst it does have its amusing moments it is perhaps difficult to laugh at them when in context with the rest of the movie...I came away from the cinema thinking "Wow, what a movie", and the lady I was with was convinced it was the biggest turd ever made. Still can't pinpoint what I get from seeing this movie....I do identify a little with Bill Murray's character, and the performances are never less than completely sincere....but it is one of those movies that has always remained so hypnotic to me - I could watch it over and over again....for me, a real classic. But certainly divisive....!!    Posted:   Oct 28, 2014 - 2:31 AM     By:   CindyLover   (Member) I fall in between the two stools above - it's not awful by any means, but it never tops the opening shot.    Posted:   Oct 28, 2014 - 2:31 AM     By:   CindyLover   (Member) Stupid double post.    Posted:   Oct 28, 2014 - 2:48 AM     By:   Francis   (Member) I wonder what you will make of Broken Flowers. I saw Lost in Translation in the theater and I liked the odd pairing of Murray and Johansson who connect with each other in a way that they can't with their companions and new surroundings. That brings forth a lot of subtle humor, emotion and interesting setups, even though this might appear banal (as is everyday life to a degree). As a result the mood in it also feels very 'real' and this is one of the few movies that take place abroad where you have that feeling of being someplace you don't really want to be and trying to make the best of it. In that sense I found it very recognizable and enjoyed the movie.    Posted:   Oct 30, 2014 - 5:14 PM     By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member) It's a terrible movie. A lot of hoo and a lot of haw, all signifying nothing. Lots of mystery hush-hush guessing as to what was whispered at the end of the film. My guess: "Can you believe this is the last scene? What the hell is this film about"? Total waste of time and one of the most atrocious Oscar wins of all time.    Posted:   Nov 4, 2014 - 2:10 PM     By:   Regie   (Member) "Lost in Translation" is mostly a fine film and one for grown up people who've experienced life. There were some scenes which didn't work; for example, in the nightclub with the Japanese. These scenes should have been edited out. But the subtle relationship between Murray and Johannson was one I could completely empathize with. Perfectly understated but so believable. The way they held hands on the bed and did nothing else; this scene was so full of meaning and so many questions were raised. Why didn't they make love? Was he incapable? Was that only going to dull a 'relationship' which would continue to exist as some kind of ideal? What did he whisper in her ear in the film's closing scene? Tantalizing. Wonderful. I loved the film.    Posted:   Nov 4, 2014 - 8:35 PM     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member) But the subtle relationship between Murray and Johannson was one I could completely empathize with. If by subtle you mean the characters didn't say anything and didn't do anything, then yeah. It reminds me of the joke about two rich socialites raving about the food at a party: "Have you tried the cake? The flavor is so subtle, you can't even taste it!"    Posted:   Nov 4, 2014 - 10:49 PM     By:   Regie   (Member) Look Zap, I completely take your point. But we are talking about PHYSICAL attraction here and this thing can be so powerful as to overwhelm. The sexual tension and chemistry between the two main actors was palpable, to me. This doesn't require a lot of "talking". And there was another dimension. The Bill Murray character phoned home only for us to find out that his wife was mundane and demanding. Scarlett J was anything but demanding and this was, apart from her sheer physical beauty, part of her attraction for Murray. Don't forget he had an assignation during the film and she was a bit upset by that. Some things are complex and Sofia Coppola (spelling?) is depicting the kind of complexity that many of us have experienced in our relationships. I know I certainly have and my own story would undoubtedly provide a 'weird' film plot, but it would be true to my real life and experiences. We're so cued into the stereotypical 'love story' in our narratives that when something different comes along many of us cannot get our heads around it. Woody Allen is another one to challenge stereotyping.    Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 4:44 AM     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member) We're so cued into the stereotypical 'love story' in our narratives that when something different comes along many of us cannot get our heads around it. Woody Allen is another one to challenge stereotyping. I can see that. I recently noted how much I like the light-weight film CRAZY STUPID LOVE, in large part because I adore Analeigh Tipton, but also because it's a romantic comedy that tosses out the standard romcom formula (meet-cute, fall in love, all is lost, all is regained) and sketches some fun characters in a more interesting plot. But TRANSLATION has no formula at all. It tosses out the baby with the bathwater. Its commercial success is just one more sign that what I like doesn't mean dick in this world, and to me that's awful.    Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 11:05 AM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) Lost In Translation is a splendid movie.    Posted:   Nov 5, 2014 - 12:15 PM     By:   mgh   (Member) Look Zap, I completely take your point. But we are talking about PHYSICAL attraction here and this thing can be so powerful as to overwhelm. The sexual tension and chemistry between the two main actors was palpable, to me. This doesn't require a lot of "talking". And there was another dimension. The Bill Murray character phoned home only for us to find out that his wife was mundane and demanding. Scarlett J was anything but demanding and this was, apart from her sheer physical beauty, part of her attraction for Murray. Don't forget he had an assignation during the film and she was a bit upset by that. Some things are complex and Sofia Coppola (spelling?) is depicting the kind of complexity that many of us have experienced in our relationships. I know I certainly have and my own story would undoubtedly provide a 'weird' film plot, but it would be true to my real life and experiences. We're so cued into the stereotypical 'love story' in our narratives that when something different comes along many of us cannot get our heads around it. Woody Allen is another one to challenge stereotyping. I agree with Regie. It is about a relationship in that in between place, not quite sexual, yet something more than just friendship. It is on the edge. I loved this film and the friend I saw it with kept asking after the film, "But what the hell was it about?"     Non-Film Score Discussion: Lost in Translation (2003) with Bill Murray    < 1  >   Go to page:  1   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1

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