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 Posted:   Nov 13, 2014 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

THE GREATEST FILM MUSIC CONCERT EVER & THE FILM MUSIC SOCIETY

Over the years the Ghent Film Festival since 2010, Ubeda recently, the legendary Filmharmonic concerts in England since 1970, Seville and tons of other places have had spectacular film music events. But nothing could touch September 25 1963 when the Composers and Lyricists Guild (the closest composers ever had to a union) presented “Music from Hollywood” at the Hollywood Bowl. The nearest to that night may have been the GSPO Varese concert but in order to even approach it they would have had to have John Williams, Bruce Broughton, James Horner, Dave Grusin, Laurence Rosenthal, James Newton Howard, Alan Silvestri, Howard Shore also conducting with Lalo Schifrin and Johnny Mandel sitting in the audience.

That is because EVERY known prominent composer in Hollywood was there that night. Alfred Newman, Bernard Herrmann, Miklos Rozsa, Franz Waxman, Dimitri Tiomkin, Alex North, David Raksin, John Green and Nelson Riddle conducted with a couple nubies, Elmer Bernstein and Henry Manicini added for good measure. In the audience Max Steiner was definitely there, and most likely Bronislau Kaper, Hugo Friedhofer, Fred Steiner, George Duning and Ernest Gold listening to their pieces done amidst medleys. And probably a couple of real youngsters that seldom had heard their work with a large orchestra in public, Jerrald Goldsmith (DR. KILDARE) and Johnny Williams (CHECKMATE). And without a doubt the guys who did many of the arrangements that night probably were there, Johnny Mandel, Alexander Courage and Morton Gould.

Having remembered seeing it on TV and purchasing the album a few years later, details of this momentous event have remained sketchy at best:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=2684&forumID=1&archive=1
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=64747&forumID=1&archive=0
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=64747&forumID=1&archive=0
until now.

The Film Music society in their last issue of The Cue Sheet, a nifty magazine published since 1984, dedicates this big 64 page issue to that historic concert. With minute detail Jon Burlingame captures every moment from conception to fruition. With dozens of photographs of rehearsals and the night itself, this is a must read. The biggest revelation being that the show I saw televised as a kid all those years ago was not THE concert. It was a condensed repeat done for television at the Bowl on April 5th 1964! The LP however IS from the original. The whole story can be found by ordering it from The Film Music Society (I encourage you to join but you do not have to in order to purchase it: Vol. 28, No 3 &4)

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/membership/membership.html



 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2014 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, I'm well aware of that evening -- I've been reading about it for years. And while it may very well be the most impressive gathering of composers that were 'hot' at the time, I would argue that this year's edition of the Krakow Film Music Festival is the biggest film music event ever hosted -- if you judge by audience numbers, venues and the 'scope' of the thing. The guests were impressive too, but not as impressive as that night in 1963, agreed.

In any case, thanks for the heads-up. I'd be interested in reading more about this.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2014 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Yeah, I'm well aware of that evening -- I've been reading about it for years. And while it may very well be the most impressive gathering of composers that were 'hot' at the time, I would argue that this year's edition of the Krakow Film Music Festival is the biggest film music event ever hosted -- if you judge by audience numbers, venues and the 'scope' of the thing. The guests were impressive too, but not as impressive as that night in 1963, agreed.

In any case, thanks for the heads-up. I'd be interested in reading more about this.


Oh without a doubt if you are talking popularity we are at the bottom of the barrel here. Mr. Burlingame researches the statistics and the attendance was 8,711 that night, little more than half the Bowl. The second concert was far worse. The TV ratings barely even registered. And the reviews of that TV version were pretty bad including one from New York proclaiming all the music "monotonously similar". I wonder what that same critic would have made of modern film scoring?

Anyway I base my greatness claim on the theory (extolled by John Williams and many more) that the film composers that have followed stand on the shoulders of many of these giants and never had so many giants been in one place at one time.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2014 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

Some of those photos in that issue of the Cue Sheet are pretty amazing. The enlarged photo spread on page 6 & 7 has, from left to right on the same stage: Franz Waxman, Dimitri Tiomkin, Miklos Rozsa, Nelson Riddle, David Raksin, Alex North, Alfred Newman, Mahlon Merrick (Jack Benny's conductor), Henry Mancini, Bernard Herrmann, Percy Faith, Elmer Bernstein, and John Green. Oh to have a time machine, an armload of lps and a felt pen!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Some of those photos in that issue of the Cue Sheet are pretty amazing. The enlarged photo spread on page 6 & 7 has, from left to right on the same stage: Franz Waxman, Dimitri Tiomkin, Miklos Rozsa, Nelson Riddle, David Raksin, Alex North, Alfred Newman, Mahlon Merrick (Jack Benny's conductor), Henry Mancini, Bernard Herrmann, Percy Faith, Elmer Bernstein, and John Green. Oh to have a time machine, an armload of lps and a felt pen!

It's those photos that knocked me out. Also how when they broke up in little niches: Newman, North and Raksin; Mancini and Bernstein kicking back; Herrmann on his own with overcoat and cigarette in his mouth; etc. And all those poster and TV guide recreations are priceless!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Can you post any of those photos? That would be awesome. Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

I love finding out about stuff like this. I have the CD released on Sony's Legacy (I think; don't have it in front of me now) some years back. Great stuff.

Thanks for sharing!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Can you post any of those photos? That would be awesome. Thanks.

My scanner hasn't worked in ages and this photo is all I can find online. Maybe someone else can put a few here (they vary in quality).

But let me encourage everyone to get this issue of this magazine THE CUE SHEET ( a magazine is a papery blog). It is dirt cheap and the Film Music society should be rewarded for it's research and work on this important moment in film music.

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/merchandise/merchandise.html

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

a magazine is a papery blog

Nice! (And, yes, do order the fascinating account of the famous event.)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I'm trying to order it, but the merchandise link only goes up to Vol. 23


Can you send me the page, or perhaps it's sold out now?

Thanks,

This is as far as I get:

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/special/cuesheet/cuesheet.pdf

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

zooba, the pdf hasn't been updated in years.

I've ordered a few of these CUE SHEETs in the past, but I can't remember how I did this.

It would be nice to be able to go to a order page, give your address and credit info and be done, but that page is so elusive. Very frustrating. confused

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Yes an order page would be great. Thanks for trying to help George. I guess I can just email them and request it and take it from there.

Thanks again.


Okay, just read the following. It has all the answers:

Please call, fax, email or write us at the address below with your purchase request and mailing address, and we'll quickly reply with the final price and postage/handling information. You're welcome to pay with cash or check (drawn from a U.S. bank), and now we also accept payments through Paypal.com, where you can use any major credit card or bank account. But be sure to call or write us first for your total due before you proceed!

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Now I remember: there IS no on-line shopping cart ("Welcome to the 21st century"). So I'll have to email too.

In the meanwhile I found this:

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/news_events/features/2013/092313.html?isArchive=092313

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2014 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Thanks George! Cool photo of a lot of our Maestros. I love listening to the music from the Concert!


Alfred Newman and Orchestra's performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5uxXgc5FtA


Miklos Rozsa and Orchestra's performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-wtAG-Xkk8

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

a magazine is a papery blog

Nice! (And, yes, do order the fascinating account of the famous event.)


Actually I stole that from Craig Ferguson, whose show I will sorely miss.

Marilee at the Film Music society notified me that issue is readily available and I mentioned that there is no indication of that on the site, so she will obviously get back to you guys by e-mail.

It was slightly more than I thought because it is a double issue:

$10 plus $3.50 shipping

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   crogrr   (Member)

Had the LP for years and was so thrilled when the expanded CD was finally issued. Highly Recommended - for something recorded live, outdoors in 1963 the sound is remarkable. And to my ears real stereo!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Had the LP for years and was so thrilled when the expanded CD was finally issued. Highly Recommended - for something recorded live, outdoors in 1963 the sound is remarkable. And to my ears real stereo!

That CD expansion is a gem, makes you feel you were there, except for the missing TV medley.

The story of this concert is fascinating down to the way the 53 photos were obtained. David Raksin had a handful of polaroids of the rehearsals and amongst them there is a shot of Alexander Courage with a camera. Sure enough, the Film Music Society contacted the Eastman School of Music, where Courage's music and papers were donated, and there was another bigger slew of photos that his family graciously allowed to be published.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


What a night that must have been. I've had the LP since 1970 and later got the expanded CD too.

I'm not sure how to order it, I sent the FMS an email.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 10:20 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I just checked with Edwin and we do NOT own this CD. How is that even possible. Will need to order it today smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Now I remember: there IS no on-line shopping cart ("Welcome to the 21st century"). So I'll have to email too.

In the meanwhile I found this:

http://www.filmmusicsociety.org/news_events/features/2013/092313.html?isArchive=092313


Wow! That color picture is really cool. I should mention the photos in this issue are black&white, but there over 50 of them plus a mess of posters, letters and ads.

 
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