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 Posted:   Nov 27, 2014 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   John Bender   (Member)

Might any forum member know which release of the BLADE RUNNER score is the most complete? I am referring to both boot-leg editions and official releases, but please do not include any projects with dialog and/or sound effects (not interested). I have 16 separate editions, including boots. I realize there have been dozens of various versions over the years. One of them must be the best / most complete, but which? I've gotta know!

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2014 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

In my opinion, the BSX recreation is the closest we will likely ever get.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2014 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I can't speak about the BR U-boats. I've heard cues from some of them over the years, but none have ever been of high enough sound quality for me to really bother with them. Also, as a general rule, I just don't do boots.

Legit releases? If you want the music from the film itself, it's coming with dialogue and sound effects.

If you don't mind a largely faithful rerecording, end titles aside, there's BSX's version.

And really that's it. For now.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2014 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

In my opinion, the BSX recreation is the closest we will likely ever get.

But John, make sure you go to their website and listen to the audio samples. If you are wanting the sound of the original soundtrack, this is not the right one.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2014 - 9:11 PM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

^^^^^ Site locked up again.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2014 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

In my opinion, the BSX recreation is the closest we will likely ever get.

But John, make sure you go to their website and listen to the audio samples. If you are wanting the sound of the original soundtrack, this is not the right one.



The sound is very close, not carbon copy perfect. As said above, it is the closest we will get. Vangelis has already demonstrated - twice - that he has absolutely zero interest in giving fans of Blade Runner what they want. EVER. His idea of a comprehensive Blade Runner album is to riddle it with dialogue and fill half of the album ( or albums ) with music NOT RELATED TO THE MOVIE.

We won't see a complete release of the original. At least as long as Vangelis is able to have a say in the matter. Sounds harsh, but, true.

The BSX recording is excellent. There's no reason at all any Blade Runner fan should not own it. It is legitimate and presents pretty much all of the essential cues from the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2014 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

Unless you are still holding out for the original recordings.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Title of this thread is misleading. roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

That's for sure. It makes it seem as if a complete Blade Runner has finally been released.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   John Bender   (Member)

Neil, Tango, Kim and Mike - thanks guys! It seems the BSX release is getting the overall go-ahead in my search for completeness. Of course I have this CD, but - and to my embarrassment - I obviously did not give it the attention it deserves. You fellows did. I had no idea it was meant to be a salvation release. You gentlemen got me to look at it again and the liner notes do state "What BSX hopes to do with this reconstruction is provide the album fans wanted but never got." That sounds good to me! I'm listening to it now and it sounds very well done - a carefully and diligently realized recreation. It is not an absolute clone. The reason why - to my ears - appears to be quite odd. The BSX crew nail timings, various generated artifacts and aural relationships down pat. I think the part that may be impossible to replicate is texture. Vangelis is a mysterious warlock in the manner by which he creates unique and very specific sensations of space and density - one could say environments - and I have never found this identically recreated in any other examples of electronic music. I have always believed that John Barry attempted (and succeeded) in doing the same thing but using the completely different tools of the analog arsenal. For instance this is why GOLDFINGER sounds cold and metallic (brass), DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER glittering and crystalline, THUNDERBALL dark, murky and dense - and all of them sound expansive, because Bond moves in a very big world of glamor and danger. / Oh, as I am writing now BSX track 7 is playing, Blade Runner Blues, and it is sounding VERY VERY close to the real thing! Cool. / As for my header being misleading - sorry! Unintentional. Blame the wonderful versatility of language. A woman may say "I am hot." and you may agree thinking she is quite sexy - but she meant it is too warm. I said BLADE RUNNER FINALLY and meant "finally" as in the end of my search for the most complete BR release of the many already available. Has BSX ended my search? I hope so! / Now track 9 is playing, On The Trail of Nexus Six, and this too is amazingly faithful to Vangelis! This is a damn fine CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   couvee   (Member)

I wish posters would choose their subject titles more carefully. This one reads like; Finally Blade Runner will be released in original form and complete, the original score by Vangelis as heard in the film.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I wish posters would choose their subject titles more carefully. This one reads like; Finally Blade Runner will be released in original form and complete, the original score by Vangelis as heard in the film.

I'm beginning to think some here do that on purpose in order to entice ppl to click on their thread. The good old bate and switch.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2014 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

FYI,

BLADE RUNNER is available for download in both the MP3 and WAV formats for only $8.99 (with digital booklet) from BSX Directly by going here:

https://buysoundtrax.greedbag.com/buy/blade-runner-music-from-the-moti-0/


Enjoy,

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   John Bender   (Member)

Thanx Ford! - I watched the BR "Final Cut' prior to posting my query. I notice there is one very distinct piece of music missing from the BSX project (or at least I didn't catch it). I'm going to have to screen the DVD again to nail precisely where this track is located. I do recall it sounds like it should be Vangelis. It is a sort of "weird, funky music of the future" type cue.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   John Bender   (Member)

"I'm beginning to think some here do that on purpose in order to entice ppl to click on their thread." - Yea, that's how I arrived at my header. And I'm so glad you're here. Especially since you have been bringing so much to the conversation. I hope we meet in the flesh someday soon.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

"I'm beginning to think some here do that on purpose in order to entice ppl to click on their thread." - Yea, that's how I arrived at my header. And I'm so glad you're here. Especially since you have been bringing so much to the conversation. I hope we meet in the flesh someday soon.

So how do you arrive with your thread titles then? The title is misleading and incorrect for the topic. It's bad board etiquette and you obviously don't care to change it. Regarding your last comment I don't know what you mean by that so I will leave it alone.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   John Bender   (Member)

Guys, I found the cue that (I think) is missing from the BSX release - and Off World and Gongo. It begins just after Deckard speaks with the little old Asian lady who inspects the "fish" scale he found under her microscope, and she informs him it is in fact snake, not fish. Deckard then heads into a smoky bazaar in search of clues to follow beginning with where the generically engineered snake came from. It is during his time in this bazaar that the "missing" futuristic Middle-Eastern style cue plays - basically percussion and synth (no voice). I could be wrong, this music might be on CD somewhere, but if it is I am currently too dumb to know of it! Anybody know anything?

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2014 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   soop.broth   (Member)

The BSX release is impressive for what it is... an recreation experiment and labor of love. Mr. Rothermich is a massive talent. It is worth picking up and mostly very good. However, it is NOT a replacement for the original score. Not even close.

There are many important passages from the film that are not represented on the BSX. Which is fine. Just don't think of it as "complete" or even close:
"At Mr Chews"
"I Am The Business / I Dreamt Music"
"Dr. Tyrell's Owl"
"Esper Analysis"
"Animoid Row"
"Taffy's Club"
"Salome's Dance"
"Desolation Path"
"Rachel Sleeps"
and the sublime "Morning At The Bradbury".
(and more)

As a massive fan of the film and the music, this would be my recommendation:

Get the 3CD 25th Anniversary Edition. Disc 2 is brimming amazing tracks, most from the film and a few from who-knows-where/when. Disc 3 is all newly recorded material and mostly non-essential, but there are a few great tracks that work well within the context of the universe Vangelis created. Disc 1 is the classic original CD release. It contains some sound effects and speech, but it is essential listening and works fantastically well as an album. Some of the non-film pieces are as good as anything in the film ("Rachel's Song").

There are many fan-made edits floating around out there and some of them are phenomenal. DO NOT PAY FOR THEM. The folks who put them together (some of whom are personal friends) never profit from their work and neither should anyone else. An unbelievable amount of time and effort has gone into these collections and it shows. Some of the better ones are: 29th Anniv Edition, EMS Recombination Definitive, The Sound Of, Seabstian 2008, Spiderwalk, etc etc etc. After the film was released on Blu-Ray, all sorts of new goodies were mined. Some of the things you'll hear are pretty mind-blowing if you're a long time fan of this music.

In conclusion... BUY the official 3CD set. Seek out some others to fill in the gaps. Buy the BSX as a supplement. Done.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   wayfarer_1969   (Member)

Soop.breath's post is spot on. Buy the official CDs and source some of the better projects out there to fill in the gaps. I fell in love with the music upon my first viewing of the film, back in 1982 and have been looking for better releases ever since.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2014 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

The BSX nails what is, for me, the essential music from the film. Sure there's lots not included, but the more source music styled tracks are - again for me, and I'm sure others - dispensable. Hell, I'd never miss "One More Kiss Dear" if it never appeared on any Blade Runner album big grin

There are a few moody score pieces that make the existing albums more complete...but they are around to be found.

One thing I like about the BSX album is it was produced to give fans of Blade Runner what they want, instead of Vangelis giving fans the finger...again. The 3 CD set is needed for disc 2, which has a few unreleased tracks. Disc 1 we already have. Disc 3 is a coaster big grin

the BSX isn't a replacement for the actual film recordings, but it is as close as we'll get. A superb effort.

Good grief, is there any other score where you have to own 3 or 4 official albums and various others to get the entire score? razz

Madness.

 
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