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Dec 10, 2014 - 10:40 AM
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Morricone
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I love Goldsmith to death, like Morricone (talk about someone with invention, stylistic breadth, and sheer technique) but if there isn't a new release out there, which this forum feeds on, naturally there is not that much discussion. A couple labels have mentioned they will fill that gap just around the corner so there will not be that much downtime. In the mean time I enjoy some of the newer fellows with abilities (for me Alexandre Desplat and Roques Banos) and there is a new Delerue out and his modern offshoot Rombi. I don't have to live and breath Jerry Goldsmith, Ennio Morricone, Elmer Bernstein and John Williams, who are my kings, even though I will turn back to them consistently. And, of course, bubblegum composers who do a lot of comic book scores will be the most popular and that has never bothered me. My top guys have done that type of score and showed them how it is done.
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I find this a strange post.
This forum is generally so dominated by Jerry Goldsmith talk and needy Jerry Goldsmith fans that I sometimes think it should be renamed the Jerry Goldsmith Forum.
Personally, I think it's nice that other film music gets talked about too.
It's the same way with CD releases too. Personally, I think the most recent Varese Club release set is one of the best they've had for a long time. And yet all some people could see was that there was no Goldsmith.
Jerry Goldsmith is already the most talked about composer, with the most fans and the most CD releases. There's no need to bemoan that's still not good enough.
My apologies is that seemed a little rough.
Cheers
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Dec 11, 2014 - 10:24 AM
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Heath
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I find this a strange post.
This forum is generally so dominated by Jerry Goldsmith talk and needy Jerry Goldsmith fans that I sometimes think it should be renamed the Jerry Goldsmith Forum.
Personally, I think it's nice that other film music gets talked about too.
It's the same way with CD releases too. Personally, I think the most recent Varese Club release set is one of the best they've had for a long time. And yet all some people could see was that there was no Goldsmith.
Jerry Goldsmith is already the most talked about composer, with the most fans and the most CD releases. There's no need to bemoan that's still not good enough.
My apologies is that seemed a little rough.
Cheers
It's not rough. It's just factually incorrect. My point is that this forum is not, as you say, generally dominated by Goldsmith talk. It WAS in the past somewhat skewed toward discussions of his music, but not anymore. Take a look. As of this writing, this is the only thread about Goldsmith I've seen here lately. By discussion of his music, I don't just mean the "collectors" chit chat about CD releases. How about some talk about how Goldsmith's music worked in the context of a film, or a scene - the actual purpose of film music.
There will be no more new Goldsmith scores. But that shouldn't stop discussions about the HUNDREDS of existing scores, many of which have received scant analysis. Sure, they weren't ALL masterpieces (that would be impossible from anyone), but even if you think they don't work, then say why you think they don't work... or do work. That would be interesting, wouldn't it?
Finally, I guess I just don't want his music to fade politely into the blur of history as has happened, arguably, with other wonderful composers.
There are trends and cycles, sure. But I get a little alarmed when I see loads of in-depth threads about Joe Schmo's latest epic score, and then, when you listen to a bit of it, it's just more of the same over-produced, generic, conservative (small c) ketchup that's poured over most contemporary films. This ketchup will be on the menu permanently unless the heat is kept up under the gold-standard of Jerry's work and that of a precious few others.
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There's only one place in my county with a section of soundtracks on CD (if it's still even there, mind you -- been about a year since I stopped by to browse) and you'd be lucky to find one Goldsmith. What you may find it a two or three Varese titles and some Star Wars, and maybe a Harry Potter. The rest are song soundtracks.
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