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Hey everyone. I know the general market is flooded with Star Wars music. I'm just curious if Intrada's relationship with Disney would perhaps afford them the opportunity to do a proper mastering of the Saga's music. Given the poor sonic quality of the RCA Episode VI set, would this happen? Just curious.
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My guess is no; Roger Feigelson has stated several times that he and Doug don't really like box sets. I suppose they could do it film by film, maybe, but I also have no idea how the music rights stand. Oddly enough, though Disney does indeed now own Star Wars, the music rights may be a bit (a lot?) more complicated. You're probably right. It would be nice to let Neil Bulk apply his mad mastering skills to this music.
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I don't know if Intrada can release Star Wars (agree they probably wouldn't do a box even if they could). But I do know that if any of our specialty labels can, it's them. They've done plenty of expansion arrangements for Sony albums; the biggest thing standing in the way before was Lucasfilm, which perhaps is now solved because they were bought by Disney, a company with which Intrada has had a special relationship for a few years now... Yavar
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I thought I remembered reading that the Star Wars scores are more titles that Sony has the rights to and won't let go (like "Titanic"). And I'm not usre we'll see them do the scores justice any time soon. A few years ago Lukas posted this: You are not going to get what you want for either franchise. Lucasfilm controls the rights and ransoms them to the highest bidder. They also defer to Williams, whose people run up big mixing bills and do not orient the releases to collectors' wishes (as happened on the recent Indy box). On top of that there are still elements problems with the original Trilogy due to the stuff having not been well archived at the time...there was a guy at the Star Wars Convention at the L.A. Convention Center a few years ago who was ransoming off original tape reels he had dug up from (LP remix engineer) John Neal's estate, including the original 2" 16-track of side four of the Star Wars LP! (Who knows where sides 1 through 3 went...the way this guy explained it, he got side 4 out of some garage...he did loan it to Lucasfilm at least to make a digital copy.) Finally, that 2CD Phantom Menace was something of a fiasco...Lucasfilm only did it because the tracks had gotten out there somehow (I forget how) and thought they were giving the collectors what they wanted by using the edited stems as conformed to the movie (with a million edits). They were quite taken aback by all the negative cricitism -- "what's the problem, it's exactly every note as heard in the film?" I remember explaining to one of the executives the subtleties involved and by the time I finished the attitude I heard was along the lines of "to hell with these people." Others know much more than I do but omerta prevails...such is the power of the Force. My real advice is to relax because after all we do have every note from the Trilogy on those 2CD editions...it's easy to overlook what a big deal that was...as well as significant Indy releases. Lukas
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Disney is doing a massive restoration of the films for BluRay to coincide with Epi 7. Someone will be milking the scores too. And for all those who respond with "That's just a rumour". Or add reasons why they won't happen, I will gladly post my "I told you so" when everything materializes. Darth Disney knows what it has and they will not turn down more opportunities to resell Star Wars stuff. Just wait and the only criticisms to come will be limited to there being "Too Much" of what we currently don't have and are dreaming for. :-)
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I have an inside source who tells me it's actually in the works from Intrada, but it is going to be a massive vinyl-only boxed set. The Dark Side is strong with you...
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I thought I remembered reading that the Star Wars scores are more titles that Sony has the rights to and won't let go (like "Titanic"). And I'm not usre we'll see them do the scores justice any time soon. A few years ago Lukas posted this: You are not going to get what you want for either franchise. Lucasfilm controls the rights and ransoms them to the highest bidder. They also defer to Williams, whose people run up big mixing bills and do not orient the releases to collectors' wishes (as happened on the recent Indy box). On top of that there are still elements problems with the original Trilogy due to the stuff having not been well archived at the time...there was a guy at the Star Wars Convention at the L.A. Convention Center a few years ago who was ransoming off original tape reels he had dug up from (LP remix engineer) John Neal's estate, including the original 2" 16-track of side four of the Star Wars LP! (Who knows where sides 1 through 3 went...the way this guy explained it, he got side 4 out of some garage...he did loan it to Lucasfilm at least to make a digital copy.) Finally, that 2CD Phantom Menace was something of a fiasco...Lucasfilm only did it because the tracks had gotten out there somehow (I forget how) and thought they were giving the collectors what they wanted by using the edited stems as conformed to the movie (with a million edits). They were quite taken aback by all the negative cricitism -- "what's the problem, it's exactly every note as heard in the film?" I remember explaining to one of the executives the subtleties involved and by the time I finished the attitude I heard was along the lines of "to hell with these people." Others know much more than I do but omerta prevails...such is the power of the Force. My real advice is to relax because after all we do have every note from the Trilogy on those 2CD editions...it's easy to overlook what a big deal that was...as well as significant Indy releases. Lukas That was true...before Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney. Now it a matter of time, no more ifs. :-)
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Considering the putative excellence of Disney's The Legacy Collection I think its fair to presume Disney will put a full restoration team on every legitimate element they can. The scores on Sony are still pretty awesome, though eventually there will be a demand for different mixes and surround sound. That is, if the music buying public ever starts to buy into hi-res downloads. It'll take a better economy to make that happen. That's when you'll see Disney begin to ache for those ancillary dollars.
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This is of course assuming that: 1. Lucasfilm held thje rights entirely. 2. Sony still doesn't hold the license.
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Earlier this year, I believe Doug Fake said Lucasfilm has already digitally preserved the original Star Wars score masters. He didn't comment on the other scores, but I read many years ago (possibly 10 years ago??) that higher quality masters for ROTJ were discovered. The ESB:SE album sounds great, but it's just a matter of the music being mixed properly. It be would be nice if all 6 six scores got a comprehensive release and be done with it. However, I think Star Wars:SE sounds excellent and I'm not sure if can be improved upon, but maybe so. I think it's more a matter of "when" and "who" and not "if".
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This is of course assuming that: 1. Lucasfilm held thje rights entirely. 2. Sony still doesn't hold the license. 1. Disney holds those rights now. Lucas owns everything BUT: 2. Sony still has rights. When the release go OOP then you will know rights are changing hands. Money talks and Disney has the most of it. Looking forward to hearing Jedi all cleaned up. :-)
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