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 Posted:   Dec 12, 2014 - 11:16 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

“American Revolutionary: The Evolution of Grace Lee Boggs,” Vivek Maddala, composer
“Anita,” Lili Haydn, composer
“Annabelle,” Joseph Bishara, composer
“At Middleton,” Arturo Sandoval, composer
“Atlas Shrugged: Who Is John Galt?,” Elia Cmiral, composer
“Bears,” George Fenton, composer
“Belle,” Rachel Portman, composer
“Big Eyes,” Danny Elfman, composer
“Big Hero 6,” Henry Jackman, composer
“The Book of Life,” Gustavo Santaolalla and Tim Davies, composers
“The Boxtrolls,” Dario Marianelli, composer
“Brick Mansions,” Trevor Morris, composer
“Cake,” Christophe Beck, composer
“Calvary,” Patrick Cassidy, composer
“Captain America: The Winter Soldier,” Henry Jackman, composer
“The Case against 8,” Blake Neely, composer
“Cheatin’,” Nicole Renaud, composer
“Dawn of the Planet of the Apes,” Michael Giacchino, composer
“The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Them,” Son Lux, composer
“Divergent,” Tom Holkenborg, composer
“Dolphin Tale 2,” Rachel Portman, composer
“Dracula Untold,” Ramin Djawadi, composer
“Draft Day,” John Debney, composer
“The Drop,” Marco Beltrami and Buck Sanders, composers
“Earth to Echo,” Joseph Trapanese, composer
“Edge of Tomorrow,” Christophe Beck, composer
“Endless Love,” Christophe Beck and Jake Monaco, composers
“The Equalizer,” Harry Gregson-Williams, composer
“Exodus: Gods and Kings,” Alberto Iglesias, composer
“The Fault in Our Stars,” Mike Mogis, composer
“Finding Vivian Maier,” J. Ralph, composer
“Fury,” Steven Price, composer
“Garnet’s Gold,” J. Ralph, composer
“Girl on a Bicycle,” Craig Richey, composer
“The Giver,” Marco Beltrami, composer
“Godzilla,” Alexandre Desplat, composer
“Gone Girl,” Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, composers
“The Good Lie,” Martin Léon, composer
“The Grand Budapest Hotel,” Alexandre Desplat, composer
“The Great Flood,” Bill Frisell, composer
“Hercules,” Fernando Velázquez, composer
“The Hero of Color City,” Zoë Poledouris-Roché and Angel Roché, Jr., composers
“The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies,” Howard Shore, composer
“The Homesman,” Marco Beltrami, composer
“Horrible Bosses 2,” Christopher Lennertz, composer
“How to Train Your Dragon 2,” John Powell, composer
“The Hundred-Foot Journey,” A.R. Rahman, composer
“The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1,” James Newton Howard, composer
“I Origins,” Will Bates and Phil Mossman, composers
“The Imitation Game,” Alexandre Desplat, composer
“Inherent Vice,” Jonny Greenwood, composer
“Interstellar,” Hans Zimmer, composer
“The Interview,” Henry Jackman, composer
“Into the Storm,” Brian Tyler, composer
“Jal,” Sonu Nigam and Bickram Ghosh, composers
“The Judge,” Thomas Newman, composer
“Kill the Messenger,” Nathan Johnson, composer
“Kochadaiiyaan,” A.R. Rahman, composer
“Legends of Oz: Dorothy’s Return,” Toby Chu, composer
“The Lego Movie,” Mark Mothersbaugh, composer
“The Liberator,” Gustavo Dudamel, composer
“Life Itself,” Joshua Abrams, composer
“Living Is Easy with Eyes Closed,” Pat Metheny, composer
“Lucy,” Eric Serra, composer
“Maleficent,” James Newton Howard, composer
“The Maze Runner,” John Paesano, composer
“Merchants of Doubt,” Mark Adler, composer
“Million Dollar Arm,” A.R. Rahman, composer
“A Million Ways to Die in the West,” Joel McNeely, composer
“Mr. Peabody & Sherman,” Danny Elfman, composer
“Mr. Turner,” Gary Yershon, composer
“The Monuments Men,” Alexandre Desplat, composer
“A Most Violent Year,” Alex Ebert, composer
“My Old Lady,” Mark Orton, composer
“Night at the Museum: Secret of the Tomb,” Alan Silvestri, composer
“Nightcrawler,” James Newton Howard, composer
“No God, No Master,” Nuno Malo, composer
“Noah,” Clint Mansell, composer
“Non-Stop,” John Ottman, composer
“The One I Love,” Danny Bensi and Saunder Jurriaans, composers
“Ouija,” Anton Sanko, composer
“Paddington,” Nick Urata, composer
“Penguins of Madagascar,” Lorne Balfe, composer
“Pompeii,” Clinton Shorter, composer
“The Purge: Anarchy,” Nathan Whitehead, composer
“The Railway Man,” David Hirschfelder, composer
“Red Army,” Christophe Beck and Leo Birenberg, composers
“Ride Along,” Christopher Lennertz, composer
“Rocks in My Pockets,” Kristian Sensini, composer
“Rosewater,” Howard Shore, composer
“St. Vincent,” Theodore Shapiro, composer
“The Salt of the Earth,” Laurent Petitgand, composer
“Selma,” Jason Moran, composer
“The Signal,” Nima Fakhrara, composer
“Snowpiercer,” Marco Beltrami, composer
“Song of the Sea,” Bruno Coulais, composer
“Still Alice,” Ilan Eshkeri, composer
“The Tale of the Princess Kaguya,” Joe Hisaishi, composer
“Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,” Brian Tyler, composer
“That Awkward Moment,” David Torn, composer
“The Theory of Everything,” Jóhann Jóhannsson, composer
“This Is Where I Leave You,” Michael Giacchino, composer
“300: Rise of an Empire,” Tom Holkenborg, composer
“Tracks,” Garth Stevenson, composer
“Transformers: Age of Extinction,” Steve Jablonsky, composer
“22 Jump Street,” Mark Mothersbaugh, composer
“Unbroken,” Alexandre Desplat, composer
“Under the Skin,” Mica Levi, composer
“Virunga,” Patrick Jonsson, composer
“Visitors,” Philip Glass, composer
“A Walk among the Tombstones,” Carlos Rafael Rivera, composer
“Walking with the Enemy,” Timothy Williams, composer
“Wild Tales,” Gustavo Santaolalla, composer
“X-Men: Days of Future Past,” John Ottman, composer

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 1:23 AM   
 By:   Lockdown   (Member)

How the heck did Need For Speed - Nathan Furst get snubbed from this list....

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

I think the composers' agents submit many of these. Even though there's 114 titles to consider, this is really pretty easy to handicap:

Things to consider:

Little Chance Category:

1) All scores written containing additional music but where that composer is not listed in the nom submission (for composing dramatic underscore) as The AMPAS Music Branch (reportedly) peruses cue sheets. "The Giver" would be an example of this.

2) Films you know very few people have seen (and for which there are probably no Academy screeners).

3) Films/scores not being promoted by the studio (Disney, for instance, is not pushing "Maleficent," JNH potentially having a better shot with "Nightcrawler" because of Gyllenhaal SAG Lead Actor nom).

4) Scores for documentary films are almost never nominated (though there are exceptions: Gerald Fried's "Birds Do It, Bees Do It")

5) Scores not getting "the buzz" (those not associated with projected Best Picture nominees or films getting considerable press attention).

6) Scores where Music Branch members can't discern what is original and what is adaptation or where traditional music is combined with original score. This may be the problem with The Grand Budapest Hotel, Desplat's associates having to produce proof that the score is substantially original - which it very well may be. Selma may have this issue as well.

Based on this, you have about twenty scores in serious 2015 Academy Award contention (this is off the top of my head, and sorry if I left off an obvious choice):

Front runners:

Interstellar (provided Hans actually composed all or the majority of the score and the cue sheets confirm this)
The Imitation Game
The Theory of Everything
Unbroken (though reviews have been underwhelming, it's a stylistic one-eighty from "Imitation")
Gone Girl

The potential fifth/sixth "horse" in the race (if one or more of the above is not included):

Fury (previous Oscar winner, Price well-liked guy, film well-regarded)
The Homesman (Beltrami also well-liked, score unusual in its conceptual approach).
Grand Budapest
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (big hit film, probably has some studio muscle behind it)
Nightcrawler (has two additional music composers listed, so hard to tell).
Under the Skin (good notices for music)
Maleficent (because JNH is well liked and film was was successful, still, no big Disney awards "push")
Selma (new composer to film, movie getting lots of attention, score well-regarded by critics)
The Judge (because it's Thomas Newman, 'nuff said)
How to Train Dragon 2
Godzilla
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (epic film, sure to be huge holiday box office).

Birdman was not submitted, so I suppose it's out of contention.

Remember this is more about what's "buzzing" than what is "best" (though sometimes "best" prevails). You would think people in the industry, especially those who've had long successful careers in it, would have realized this by now (I am glad the word "best" has been excised from the award, now just known as Original Score).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Then there's the politics of the whole thing that has nothing to do with music. Desplat is way overdue, so is JNH. Maleficent was a great score and I hope it gets in there. Zimmer deserves another win as it's been what, 25 years since the last time. As for his name on the cue sheets that only because they apparently have never heard of Sibelius or Philip Glass. Maybe Zimmer would thank them in his speech.

I find the pattern is whoever I think has the best music (Under the Skin) gets ignored and they usually nominate a good group but award it to the most banal generic offering. There is still tons of great scores being written but the idea that Renzor has as many Oscars as Goldsmith and Herrmann makes me sick.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

I find the additional music gray-area the most troubling aspect of this. Now, if it's source music or a few insignificant filler type cues, then I say, fine, let the submission stand. However, when you go to these composers websites (the ones credited with "additional music") and see that they have three and five minutes long orchestral sequences on his/her Soundcloud page, you really have to wonder just what the division of labor (on a particular score) was. At least with John Williams you know he's written all of the score himself (often times even the source stuff) and no one need bother looking over the cue sheets for proof of this - the musical "thumbprints" being unmistakably identifiable.

As for, Hans, I suspect when something comes along he's truly passionate about, like "The Thin Red Line," that he will try to do it all himself (that is, aside from "being inspired" by Glass, Holst, Sibelius, etc.) Perhaps this was the case with "Interstellar."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Then there's the politics of the whole thing that has nothing to do with music. Desplat is way overdue, so is JNH. Maleficent was a great score and I hope it gets in there. Zimmer deserves another win as it's been what, 25 years since the last time. As for his name on the cue sheets that only because they apparently have never heard of Sibelius or Philip Glass. Maybe Zimmer would thank them in his speech.

I find the pattern is whoever I think has the best music (Under the Skin) gets ignored and they usually nominate a good group but award it to the most banal generic offering. There is still tons of great scores being written but the idea that Renzor has as many Oscars as Goldsmith and Herrmann makes me sick.


Well, the difference for me is that Goldsmith and Herrmann won their respective awards for film music masterpieces: "The Omen" and "The Devil and Daniel Webster," two scores that will be highly regarded for decades and decades to come (think anyone in the distant future will feel similarly about the music for "Brokeback Mountain, "Fame," "Love Story" or "Midnight Express?")

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

Of those scores, the real ones with chances are:

- "Interstellar" by Hans Zimmer (It's a lock... except if the movies, such a critical failure, gets no nominations at all. But I can see it missing visual effects actually)

- "The Theory of Everything" by Johann Johannsson (Incredible LOVE to the movie. It's a good score and could be the surprise winner as it comes from a newcomer and from a movie that surely won't win the top awards)

- "Gone Girl" by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross (A very nice improvement by dynamic duo. If you are arguing they can't get it as they missed nomination for "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo", I recall you that year John Williams deserved two places so with no Williams this year, it's more easily this score gets the nomination. Very good score, worked marvelous on the movie)

- "The Imitation Game" by Alexandre Desplat (Wonderful. Deserves to have won already. His only problem is that the movie isn't performing as good as expected and maybe Desplat won't get the award. The nominations is lock at the moment)

- "The Grand Budapest Hotel" by Alexandre Desplat (Could make a surprise becoming one of the nominees. One of the best comedic scores of the last years. If this gets the nomination, Desplat will become a double nominee)

- "Unbroken" by Alexandre Desplat (The film has tanked for critics. As good as the score is, I don't believe it will get nominated. It needs to get more acclaim)

- "The Judge" by Thomas Newman (Composer is very loved by the Academy and this could be a surprise nomination for this film along with Robert Duvall's best supporting actor)

- "The Homesman" by Marco Beltrami (Score is very liked and respected. The film needs to do better. I can only seeing this nominated if also Hillary Swank is for best actress)

- "Maleficent" by James Newton Howard (One of the best scores of the year. Don't be strange if this gets nominated. The film surely will make in technical categories. Deserves to be nominated)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Then there's the politics of the whole thing that has nothing to do with music. Desplat is way overdue, so is JNH. Maleficent was a great score and I hope it gets in there. Zimmer deserves another win as it's been what, 25 years since the last time. As for his name on the cue sheets that only because they apparently have never heard of Sibelius or Philip Glass. Maybe Zimmer would thank them in his speech.

I find the pattern is whoever I think has the best music (Under the Skin) gets ignored and they usually nominate a good group but award it to the most banal generic offering. There is still tons of great scores being written but the idea that Renzor has as many Oscars as Goldsmith and Herrmann makes me sick.


Well, the difference for me is that Goldsmith and Herrmann won their respective awards for film music masterpieces: "The Omen" and "The Devil and Daniel Webster," two scores that will be highly regarded for decades and decades to come (think anyone in the distant future will feel similarly about the music for "Brokeback Mountain, "Fame," "Love Story" or "Midnight Express?")


I wouldn't include LOVE STORY in that list. It was a score very much of it's time and it is very effective in the film. You guys just bash it because Jerry didn't win for PATTON.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Then there's the politics of the whole thing that has nothing to do with music. Desplat is way overdue, so is JNH. Maleficent was a great score and I hope it gets in there. Zimmer deserves another win as it's been what, 25 years since the last time. As for his name on the cue sheets that only because they apparently have never heard of Sibelius or Philip Glass. Maybe Zimmer would thank them in his speech.

I find the pattern is whoever I think has the best music (Under the Skin) gets ignored and they usually nominate a good group but award it to the most banal generic offering. There is still tons of great scores being written but the idea that Renzor has as many Oscars as Goldsmith and Herrmann makes me sick.


Well, the difference for me is that Goldsmith and Herrmann won their respective awards for film music masterpieces: "The Omen" and "The Devil and Daniel Webster," two scores that will be highly regarded for decades and decades to come (think anyone in the distant future will feel similarly about the music for "Brokeback Mountain, "Fame," "Love Story" or "Midnight Express?")


I wouldn't include LOVE STORY in that list. It was a score very much of it's time and it is very effective in the film. You guys just bash it because Jerry didn't win for PATTON.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Well, you also have to consider that the two guys who made the "Love Story" song into a workable score didn't receive due credit: Leo Shuken and Jack Hayes (the orchestratosr/adaptors). So, if this, in your mind, is an effective score, you have them to acknowledge (and thank).

I give you that the song is one everyone knows, but I have never seen anyone here discuss the score, at least not with the degree of regard of the Goldsmith and Herrmann scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Well, you also have to consider that the two guys who made the "Love Story" song into a workable score didn't receive due credit: Leo Shuken and Jack Hayes (the orchestratosr/adaptors). So, if this, in your mind, is an effective score, you have them to thank.

I have never heard their names associated with Lai. Christian Gaubert was Lai's arranger/conductor as far as I have heard.

Shuken & Hayes worked with Bacharach on BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID and that's a score you could throw into your list easier than LOVE STORY.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

This was documented in one of the books on film music history. I'll see if I can dig up the reference (I think John Green, who was at the time an AMPAS Music Branch Governor, talked about it).

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

114 original scores up for the nominations, and only a handful of the most bland and boring blockbuster/Awards bait biopic wallpaper ones will make the cut, same as always. Meh.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

As for, Hans, I suspect when something comes along he's truly passionate about, like "The Thin Red Line," that he will try to do it all himself


I guess Klaus Badelt and John Powell would disagree with that.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

As for, Hans, I suspect when something comes along he's truly passionate about, like "The Thin Red Line," that he will try to do it all himself


I guess Klaus Badelt and John Powell would disagree with that.


Well, this is one that Hans has mentioned time and again in interviews (as if he was the architect of it all). When I met him once he seemed to be very proud (and protective) of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Well, you also have to consider that the two guys who made the "Love Story" song into a workable score didn't receive due credit: Leo Shuken and Jack Hayes (the orchestratosr/adaptors). So, if this, in your mind, is an effective score, you have them to thank.

I have never heard their names associated with Lai. Christian Gaubert was Lai's arranger/conductor as far as I have heard.

Shuken & Hayes worked with Bacharach on BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID and that's a score you could throw into your list easier than LOVE STORY.

James


Jack Hayes told me that he and Leo Shuken were involved with "Love Story" when Jimmy Webb was supposed to write the score. They had a few meetings with Webb who was going to try some new sounds. They parted and they never heard from Webb again. They didn't work with Lai.
I heard Webb made a few demos on his own and his ideas were rejected.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Well, you also have to consider that the two guys who made the "Love Story" song into a workable score didn't receive due credit: Leo Shuken and Jack Hayes (the orchestratosr/adaptors). So, if this, in your mind, is an effective score, you have them to thank.

I have never heard their names associated with Lai. Christian Gaubert was Lai's arranger/conductor as far as I have heard.

Shuken & Hayes worked with Bacharach on BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID and that's a score you could throw into your list easier than LOVE STORY.

James


Jack Hayes told me that he and Leo Shuken were involved with "Love Story" when Jimmy Webb was supposed to write the score. They had a few meetings with Webb who was going to try some new sounds. They parted and they never heard from Webb again. They didn't work with Lai.
I heard Webb made a few demos on his own and his ideas were rejected.


It sounds like either a) the interviewee got his facts confused (surprising, as these made it into print) or b) Shuken and Hayes worked quietly behind the scenes. What I read was that Paramount got nervous about what Lai had and basically had Shuken and Hayes write variations on the song (was the score recorded in Los Angeles?) Again, I will try to track down the source material (it's not in Bazelon's "Knowing the Score," just checked).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2014 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

These tracks from LOVE STORY pretty much prove this is all Lai:

http://youtu.be/8f5Pl8qiGss

http://youtu.be/I3N_6LR8WBc

http://youtu.be/XYiv0MWFl0Q

And none of the feature the main "theme" from the film.

The score is very similar in some ways to his music from MAYERLING and Lelouch's UN HOMME QUI ME PLAIT.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2014 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Was GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY not submitted, or was it ruled ineligible because of all the pop songs on the soundtrack?

 
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