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 Posted:   Jul 26, 2015 - 9:57 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I picked this up at Amoeba today, but my coy doesn't have the DEDICATION part under the ORIGINAL MOTIN PICTURE SOUNDTRACK at the bottom. I know Sony Classical added a dedication to Horner, but was that just for online retailers or digital? Were the CD's already pressed so they couldn't add the dedication or were some made with it and some without it. Anyone else have this with or without the dedication?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2015 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Joe Brausam   (Member)

I picked this up at Amoeba today, but my coy doesn't have the DEDICATION part under the ORIGINAL MOTIN PICTURE SOUNDTRACK at the bottom. I know Sony Classical added a dedication to Horner, but was that just for online retailers or digital? Were the CD's already pressed so they couldn't add the dedication or were some made with it and some without it. Anyone else have this with or without the dedication?

My copy that I got from Amazon on Friday has no dedication either.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2015 - 2:18 AM   
 By:   the_limited_edition   (Member)

A.O.Scott wrote in his review of the film for The New York Times:

"With a new Eminem song tucked into one of the montages, an old-style melodramatic score by James Horner (one of his last, sadly; he died in June and the film is dedicated to his memory) and plenty of muscular brawling, “Southpaw” is effective without being terribly convincing."

From what I've heard of the score on Youtube I find it hard to believe it can come across as "old-style melodramatic" in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2015 - 12:11 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Is someone with the physical album able to post the tech-credits? The iTunes album did not come with an e-booklet. Thanks!

I picked up the album today (no dedication copies available) and the music production credits are very sparse:

Score Produced by JAMES HORNER, SIMON RHODES and SIMON FRANGLEN
Recorded and Mixed by SIMON RHODES
Additional Arrangements by SIMON RHODES and SIMON FRANGLEN
Assistant Engineer HANNAH PARROTT
Music Editor JOE E. RAND

Soundtrack Album Producer RICHARD GLASSER
Music Legal DAVID HELFANT
Soundtrack Music Coordination by SIENNA JACKSON

Publisher: Weinstein Company Music (ASCAP) / Music In Motion (ASCAP)
Booklet Design: WLP Ltd
Sony Classical Licensing: MARK CAVELL
Sony Classical Product Development: KLARA KORYTOWSKA

The Weinstein Company would like to thank:
BOB WEINSTEIN, HARVEY WEINSTEIN, DAVID GLASSER, ANTOINE FUQUA, JAMES HORNER, ERIK LOMIS, TOM PRINCE,
ADRIAN LOPEZ, STUART BURKIN, COLLIN CREIGHTON, BRENDON BOYEA, RYAN BRASNO, JERRY YE, GILLIAN ZHAO, CARY CHENG, JONATHAN GARRISON

"A special thanks to both Antoine Fuqua and John Houlihan for working with me so closely, giving me the freedom to try out some pretty modern textures of music working with film, that other filmmakers might not have let me try...

JAMES HORNER"

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2015 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Saw this film last night.
No Horner dedication on the print I saw (Odeon Liverpool UK).
The film was okay, solid, but VERY predictable.
I'm still impressed by Gyllenhaal as an actor, one of the best out there at the moment.
The father-daughter aspect was the main feature, above the boxing, which piqued Horner's interest in the first place.
Although modern sound design(ish) in style, the score was still more memorable than most other proponents of this method, maybe due to Horner's superior skills as a dramatist.
I enjoyed it overall, both film and score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2015 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   akhnaton   (Member)

I just received my copy of SOUTHPAW.
There is no dedication credit to James Horner on the cover.
Strange that it was not there.
Have any of you received the CD with the credit on it?

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2015 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

A.O.Scott wrote in his review of the film for The New York Times:

"With a new Eminem song tucked into one of the montages, an old-style melodramatic score by James Horner (one of his last, sadly; he died in June and the film is dedicated to his memory) and plenty of muscular brawling, “Southpaw” is effective without being terribly convincing."

From what I've heard of the score on Youtube I find it hard to believe it can come across as "old-style melodramatic" in the film.


Right? It is the complete opposite of old style. It is the typical modern action score sound through and through.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2015 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Is someone with the physical album able to post the tech-credits? The iTunes album did not come with an e-booklet. Thanks!

I picked up the album today (no dedication copies available) and the music production credits are very sparse:

Score Produced by JAMES HORNER, SIMON RHODES and SIMON FRANGLEN
Recorded and Mixed by SIMON RHODES
Additional Arrangements by SIMON RHODES and SIMON FRANGLEN
Assistant Engineer HANNAH PARROTT
Music Editor JOE E. RAND

Soundtrack Album Producer RICHARD GLASSER
Music Legal DAVID HELFANT
Soundtrack Music Coordination by SIENNA JACKSON

Publisher: Weinstein Company Music (ASCAP) / Music In Motion (ASCAP)
Booklet Design: WLP Ltd
Sony Classical Licensing: MARK CAVELL
Sony Classical Product Development: KLARA KORYTOWSKA

The Weinstein Company would like to thank:
BOB WEINSTEIN, HARVEY WEINSTEIN, DAVID GLASSER, ANTOINE FUQUA, JAMES HORNER, ERIK LOMIS, TOM PRINCE,
ADRIAN LOPEZ, STUART BURKIN, COLLIN CREIGHTON, BRENDON BOYEA, RYAN BRASNO, JERRY YE, GILLIAN ZHAO, CARY CHENG, JONATHAN GARRISON

"A special thanks to both Antoine Fuqua and John Houlihan for working with me so closely, giving me the freedom to try out some pretty modern textures of music working with film, that other filmmakers might not have let me try...

JAMES HORNER"


Thanks! Horner's thanks was very interesting. He saw it as an experiment. Makes you wonder what else he had wanted to try.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

I got the chance to meet Harvey Weinstein a few days after Horner's accident and I asked him about his collaboration on "Southpaw". I wanted to share it with you, so here you got the link (sorry for the bad audio, I recorded it with my Iphone)

https://youtu.be/iKmd9PAzY8M

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Right? It is the complete opposite of old style. It is the typical modern action score sound through and through.

Modern action score sound? Have you even listened to this score, siriusjr? This is a score for a drama, there's absolutely nothing "action" about it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

The Weinstein Company would like to thank:
BOB WEINSTEIN, HARVEY WEINSTEIN...


The Weinstein Company would like to thank... the Weinstein Company. Before anyone else.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   the_limited_edition   (Member)

From what I've heard, read ,and seen, Harvey Weinstein must be among the most unpleasant people in Hollywood (which, Hollywood being Hollywood, should cover a lot of ground).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Luc Van der Eeken   (Member)

This is not the 'harsh' score I was expecting after reading the reviews. I think a lot of it is pretty subdued and in its own modern way even touching. As far as I'm concerned it's his best and most versatile synthesizer score (I never warmed to 'Thunderheart' or 'Unlawful Entry' etc..). He was on a roll, that's for sure. So sad...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I saw the film yesterday (press screening), and found it to be very 'by-the-numbers'. However, there were three redeeming factors -- Jake Gyllenhaal, Forest Whitaker and Horner's score.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2015 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

A vinyl release of "Southpaw" (limited to 500 copies, solid red wax, 180 gram) coming for those who like their Horner in that format:

http://modern-vinyl.com/2015/08/18/southpaw-soundtrack-coming-to-vinyl-for-1st-time/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2015 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

This is not the 'harsh' score I was expecting after reading the reviews. I think a lot of it is pretty subdued and in its own modern way even touching. As far as I'm concerned it's his best and most versatile synthesizer score (I never warmed to 'Thunderheart' or 'Unlawful Entry' etc..). He was on a roll, that's for sure. So sad...

Beat me to it, Luc, thanks a lot! :-/
Just kidding, but honestly, I felt the same way - I was expecting a harsh atonal listen, and its
very much in the neighborhood of Unlawful Entry, Extreme Close Up, The Forgotten. It's a good listen, I thought, just long enough with hints of tonality. The only slightly experiemental stuff shows up in what I'm assuming is the final fight, the penultimate cue running 8 1/2 minutes. That piece isn't truly harsh either.

I was on the hate wagon in the 90's for Horner straying from the orchestra to ensemble, but in hindsight, its aging pretty well, I've changed my tune about it, and I think Southpaw will endure rather well. RIP JH....

-Sean

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2015 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Right? It is the complete opposite of old style. It is the typical modern action score sound through and through.

Modern action score sound? Have you even listened to this score, siriusjr? This is a score for a drama, there's absolutely nothing "action" about it.


I sure have. It has a lot of the typical modern flourishes that have become common in action scores these days. Sure some of them are used for dramatic effect but that doesn't make it less of an action score. I could barely stand one listen because it has so little to say and is so indistinguishable from everything else in the last 5 years.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Man I am just loving this score. It is really wrapping itself around my heart. Kind of surprising, actually.

I've been listening to it on a loop a lot at work. That is very rarely how I listen to a score I'm not very familiar with. It's sometimes how I'll listen to scores I'm extremely familiar with, to have it playing as background noise at work while doing menial tasks. With Southpaw, I hadn't heard it enough times to know the intricacies of it yet, but I began to play it on a loop at work anyway and have it in the background and the repetitious method of listening and haunting quality of the music really ingrained itself in me in a very special way, in a very unusual way. I've come to regard the score extremely highly now, very quickly. The notes, the melodies, the textures have seeped into my subconscious and my listening pleasure center and although not how I ordinarily listen to a new album, I've kind of fallen in love with this Horner score. It really is quite wonderful.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2015 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   P.Tsakiris   (Member)

Saw the film today. It kept reminding me of Champion starring Kirk Douglas (a boxer fighting against himself/film noir approach of the subject). I previously heard the score a couple of timesand thought it's themes were too far apart and quiet but a typical movie James Horner would score. Looking forward to The Magnificent Seven.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2016 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Jake Gyllenhaal briefly discusses James Horner when asked about him in this "Conversations with Southpaw" interview conducted by the Screen Actors Guild Foundation. Gyllenhaal is clearly emotional when mentioning Horner and what's really touching is that he says that sometimes he listens to scores as "a motivation emotionally in moving into a scene" and that one of the scores he uses often is Seaching for Bobby Fischer ("and many of his scores!") because it moves him so much.

(about 19:55)

 
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