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 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

I'm surprised there isn't a thread about this important news, so I thought to start one in case someone missed it between the pages, in the other thread that it was posted.

by JamesFitz:

I was going to record DRACULA last year...but was told by a "good" source that the tapes were all found and that Varese would be doing it ???


http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=18&threadID=107664&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

and its just rumours until officially announced. This is big Year for Williams fans so why not?

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I haven't kept up with Varese releases lately. Based on recent Varese evidence, how much of the score do you guys suppose would be on their new edition of DRACULA?

I know we're past the days of 30-odd-minute deals, but would it be complete and plush with bonus tracks, like our favorite boutique labels do them?

Worst case: they'd put out a decent, mid-length CD, followed a year later by the nearly-complete 2-disc set. And the 2-disc set would be missing some little but beautiful thing that's on the single-disc release.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

As everyone can probably guess, I'm perfectly pleased with the existing Varese CD and have no wish or desire for any expansion.

That being said, I'm well aware how wanted this item is in fan circles, and in that respect it's tantalizing news from Varese (via James). I would hold off the champagne a bit longer, however. Even if the tapes HAVE been found, there's still a way to go in terms of converting it into an album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

I'm surprised there isn't a thread about this important news, so I thought to start one in case someone missed it between the pages, in the other thread that it was posted.


Maybe because it's Varese, so the tapes might as well still be lost as God know when we'll see anything from them. At the rate they release stuff it could be years.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

and its just rumours until officially announced. This is big Year for Williams fans so why not?

Or we need to wait for 28 years, until Varese will release it (as we waited for Peggy Sue, for example).





I'm joking, of course!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm surprised there isn't a thread about this important news, so I thought to start one in case someone missed it between the pages, in the other thread that it was posted.
by JamesFitz:
I was going to record DRACULA last year...but was told by a "good" source that the tapes were all found and that Varese would be doing it ???
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=18&threadID=107664&archive=0


actually that post seems to be on page 7 in that thread (near bottom)
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=7&threadID=107664&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Yes, bad sounding mono tapes that the rights holders rightfully don't want to master and release.


MV

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

Yes, bad sounding mono tapes that the rights holders rightfully don't want to master and release.


MV


MV, of course you can ignore this, but do you know (and can you explain for us) how this happened?
I mean how it happened that stereo tapes were lost & only bad sounding mono tapes survived?
At least, I always thought that as it's Williams, so most (if not all) scores from that period survives and only waiting, when LLL/Intrada/Varese etc. will release them...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Yes, bad sounding mono tapes that the rights holders rightfully don't want to master and release.


MV


MV, of course you can ignore this, but do you know (and can you explain for us) how this happened?
I mean how it happened that stereo tapes were lost & only bad sounding mono tapes survived?
At least, I always thought that as it's Williams, so most (if not all) scores from that period survives and only waiting, when LLL/Intrada/Varese etc. will release them...


I'll chime in here. Studios often didn't keep stereo masters when the film was released in mono. That is why you don't have stereo versions of older scores. The studio only needed the mono master for mixing.

James

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Yes, bad sounding mono tapes that the rights holders rightfully don't want to master and release.


MV


MV, of course you can ignore this, but do you know (and can you explain for us) how this happened?
I mean how it happened that stereo tapes were lost & only bad sounding mono tapes survived?
At least, I always thought that as it's Williams, so most (if not all) scores from that period survives and only waiting, when LLL/Intrada/Varese etc. will release them...


I'll chime in here. Studios often didn't keep stereo masters when the film was released in mono. That is why you don't have stereo versions of older scores. The studio only needed the mono master for mixing.

James


And don't forget Universal had that major fire several years back and lot of stock went up in smoke.

Not saying Dracula was one of them, but it could have been. I know the company that does have the rights wants to continue their search and find the best elements possible. Hopefully they will some day (perhaps they have already. My intel dates back about 6 months ago).

Until then a brand new re-recording would be most welcome.

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

delete

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Hopefully this won't turn out to be another Ten Commandments or Conan the Destroyer.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)


actually that post seems to be on page 7 in that thread (near bottom)
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=7&threadID=107664&archive=0


When you're logged out it's on page 7.
When you're logged in, it's on the page I attached (page 18).


Maybe because it's Varese, so the tapes might as well still be lost as God know when we'll see anything from them. At the rate they release stuff it could be years.


Well, I thought since James Fitzpatrick didn't go on with his plans of a re-recording, it would be released soon.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

actually that post seems to be on page 7 in that thread (near bottom)
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=7&threadID=107664&archive=0

When you're logged out it's on page 7.
When you're logged in, it's on the page I attached (page 18).


huh, didnt know that effected things. Good to know.

Well, I thought since James Fitzpatrick didn't go on with his plans of a re-recording, it would be released soon.

logical. But it sounds like someone should ask Varese to clear up the matter since it's only speculation now.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

I want a re-recording, not some old mono masters.

I want to enjoy the music with the best sound. It doesn't have to be the original recording, since I can't see some old bloke waving his arms about when I'm listening to a CD.

big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Varese has certainly not let shitty-sounding tracks get in the way of releasing an album before.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I want a re-recording, not some old mono masters.
I want to enjoy the music with the best sound. It doesn't have to be the original recording, since I can't see some old bloke waving his arms about when I'm listening to a CD.


especially if that old bloke conductor was also the composer. They're the last ones to be trusted.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


When you're logged out it's on page 7.
When you're logged in, it's on the page I attached (page 18).


You can choose how many posts per page you see in your preferences. I for instance have 200 per page so the Moonraker post only has three pages.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2015 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

lol. So in other words, type FSM and whatever keywords in Google and skip the linking.

 
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