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 Posted:   Oct 19, 2017 - 10:45 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

...it will be conducted by John Williams, or it is not happening.

Who has made this stipulation? It doesn't make sense from any point of view, artistically or commercially.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Interesting that williams and "his people" had no problem with Jaws, superman, amazing stories, midway and who knows what other re-recordings... :-/

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 2:14 AM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

Well, and Dracula is the only score that really needs a re-recording!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

...it will be conducted by John Williams, or it is not happening.

Who has made this stipulation? It doesn't make sense from any point of view, artistically or commercially.


Not entirely sure. All I remember is James saying that it wouldn’t happen without Williams’ involvement. To me that didn’t read as John would have to conduct it, but maybe that’s what it did mean.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Interesting that williams and "his people" had no problem with Jaws, superman, amazing stories, midway and who knows what other re-recordings... :-/

Those recordings were all done roughly two decades ago. Do you have the same opinion about everything that you did two decades ago?

Or maybe (and this is purely hypothetical) Williams was frustrated by those recordings, which would make him more proprietary about future ones.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

dp

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

...it will be conducted by John Williams, or it is not happening.

Who has made this stipulation? It doesn't make sense from any point of view, artistically or commercially.


Not entirely sure. All I remember is James saying that it wouldn’t happen without Williams’ involvement. To me that didn’t read as John would have to conduct it, but maybe that’s what it did mean.


For some reason Williams management isn't allowing anyone else to record this score again. James Fitzpatrick did confirm this earlier. One can only hope that efforts are still going to search for the original recording's better tapes out there.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Interesting that williams and "his people" had no problem with Jaws, superman, amazing stories, midway and who knows what other re-recordings... :-/

Those recordings were all done roughly two decades ago. Do you have the same opinion about everything that you did two decades ago?

Or maybe (and this is purely hypothetical) Williams was frustrated by those recordings, which would make him more proprietary about future ones.


Or maybe he liked that it was the RSNO that performed his score rather than James and Co. (no offence). How were Varese able to record this music and why did they decide Midway? It is a curious choice when you consider that (a) Dracula is/was one of their most requested score (,b) They could not find the masters and know that the tapes they that do own are not in a good state and (c) Dracula is from JW's most creative period, so a newly recorded score would have sold in large numbers. I wonder if someone here can give us more information about those projects and maybe JW's reaction to them?

I think JW would be open to a re-recording of Dracula if either he or Gustavo Dudamel, who seems to be JW's go to conductor, were both involved. As JW is no longer a sprightly figure than you are looking to record the score close to where he lives and with Dudamel in the mix than the Los Angeles Philharmonic would be the natural orchestra to record it. So you either need a label or labels to put up the money for such expensive release or you'd want a pretty good Kickstarter campaign launched after the agreement of JW and Dudamel. So basically you need a lot of money and the agreement of many players involved in the process.

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

why did they decide Midway? It is a curious choice when you consider that (a) Dracula is/was one of their most requested score (,b) They could not find the masters and know that the tapes they that do own are not in a good state and (c) Dracula is from JW's most creative period, so a newly recorded score would have sold in large numbers.

This one seems pretty easy. In 1998 (when the recording came out), "Midway" was a major hole in the Williams discography, one of only four post-"Jaws" scores never to have been released at all (aside from a very rare 45). "Dracula" had been issued on CD just eight years earlier.

Was it complete? No, but 1998 was also the year of FSM's very first releases, and only then began an expectation of complete releases (not even all FSM releases were complete at first). The state of the "Dracula" master tapes may very well not have been known at all at that time.

Regardless, if they had the choice between recording a never-before-released Williams score vs. one they had issued eight years earlier, "Midway" seems like a good choice. (And of course, I have no idea of the relative states of the written scores themselves, rights issues, etc., all of which could have also been factors.)

See? Not so curious!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2017 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   propinquity   (Member)

Perhaps James can update us if a) he's milling about in the hallway outside this thread and b) there's any new information. Whenever Halloween rolls around I get hopeful about this score. My hunch is that it's never been reissued on CD because the surviving masters don't sound very good, and hasn't been rerecorded because of various issues discussed above, but you never know.

 
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