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 Posted:   Jan 31, 2015 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Giachinno on the other hand, I really enjoyed his score to "The Incredibles" and wouldn't mind owning the complete score. I'm sure Intrada will get to it one day.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2015 - 11:57 PM   
 By:   Toutred20   (Member)

Wonder when this will be on Itunes

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2015 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Very excited for this one - looking forward to the first samples...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2015 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I've always felt that Beltrami is weak on the melodic front but a very strong action composer.

Two words: SOUL SURFER.


Or, even better: MIMIC, DON'T BE AFAIRD OF THE DARK, DAVID & LISA and the thematic portions of HELLBOY.

The big sweeping conclusion of "Reunited" from Mimic is still the best piece of music he's ever written. Simply breathtaking.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2015 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I've always felt that Beltrami is weak on the melodic front but a very strong action composer.

Two words: SOUL SURFER.


Or, even better: MIMIC, DON'T BE AFAIRD OF THE DARK, DAVID & LISA and the thematic portions of HELLBOY.

The big sweeping conclusion of "Reunited" from Mimic is still the best piece of music he's ever written. Simply breathtaking.


I don't know a lot of his stuff. But the first thing that comes to mind when I hear his name is Mimic. Terrific score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2015 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

The Homesman is an excellent drama score by Beltrami, IMO a perfect cd listen & one of his best.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2016 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I got a bargain copy of this, mainly because I'm a big Glass fan.

Anyone know which cues contain his work? I noticed the second half of track 1 sounds like him, listened to a couple of others that don't sound anything like him.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2016 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

I got a bargain copy of this, mainly because I'm a big Glass fan.

Anyone know which cues contain his work? I noticed the second half of track 1 sounds like him, listened to a couple of others that don't sound anything like him.


Not having seen cue sheets, I'm pretty sure that's about all Glass contributed to this score. It's a cool piece that I'd say is like 70% Glass and 30% Beltrami compositionally, and probably 100% produced by Beltrami as it's well-known Glass doesn't attend recordings.

I think this is a case where producers paid for his name more than his actual contribution.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2016 - 10:20 PM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

According to the ASCAP repertoire, Glass collaborated in only a couple of cues from the score. Also, the rest of it it's pretty much made by William Roberts, James Hankins, Buck Sanders and Marcus Trumpp. Same with Beltrami's recent scores (and yes, including Ben-Hur and Gods Of Egypt). I think Beltrami works as a music producer and writes a theme or two rather than doing most of a score and having additional composers to finish it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2016 - 11:16 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

According to the ASCAP repertoire, Glass collaborated in only a couple of cues from the score. Also, the rest of it it's pretty much made by William Roberts, James Hankins, Buck Sanders and Marcus Trumpp. Same with Beltrami's recent scores (and yes, including Ben-Hur and Gods Of Egypt). I think Beltrami works as a music producer and writes a theme or two rather than doing most of a score and having additional composers to finish it.

Gotcha, are these ASCAP listings viewable online anywhere? I'd be curious to know which cues have Glass credited.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2016 - 1:43 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Also, the rest of it it's pretty much made by William Roberts, James Hankins, Buck Sanders and Marcus Trumpp.

Brandon Roberts and Miles Hankins.

I think Beltrami works as a music producer and writes a theme or two rather than doing most of a score and having additional composers to finish it.

Incorrect, but he gets help like most other composers.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2016 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

According to the ASCAP repertoire, Glass collaborated in only a couple of cues from the score. Also, the rest of it it's pretty much made by William Roberts, James Hankins, Buck Sanders and Marcus Trumpp. Same with Beltrami's recent scores (and yes, including Ben-Hur and Gods Of Egypt). I think Beltrami works as a music producer and writes a theme or two rather than doing most of a score and having additional composers to finish it.

Gotcha, are these ASCAP listings viewable online anywhere? I'd be curious to know which cues have Glass credited.


Yes:

https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2016 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)



Incorrect, but he gets help like most other composers.


From what I got told, either he uses composers to write most of the score and Beltrami brings a couple of themes, or he does most of it but he credits his composers. I got the cuesheets of Seventh Son and Beltrami's name wasn't included, while the ones of Carrie had him and a couple others credited in all the cues. In Die Hard 5, Beltrami was only credited as a solo writer in only a couple of cues.

The ASCAP and BMI repertoires credits composers but there's no way to know if a certain composer writes most of a cue and another one just add some details to the orchestrations (like Beck does) or if it's a cue where a theme by a certain composer is used (like Forbidden Friendship from HTTYD which apparently was written by Paul Mounsey). It's quite tricky.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2016 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

BMI also has one, but I'd caution against the level of detail and accuracy you'll find.

For one thing: neither is complete; there are entrie composers missing and entire projects by some composers also missing.

And the entries don't make distinctions between source music, classical music, and sometimes songs. It'll also make no distinction about tracked music and it won't even tell you (most of the time) what was tracked even if you know it's tracked.

Then you find weird thigns that you can't make any sense of, like David Newman listed for "The Ghost and the Darkness", or Scott Gilman for "Star Trek: Voyager". Are they trying to tell me Newman did a score that wasn't used, contributed cues, had source music tracked in that wasn't credited? Is it trying to tell me the same thing about Gilman for Voyager? And there are further head scratchers as well.


It comes in handy once in a while when I'm looking for information on who scored what if I can't find it elsewhere, or I'm trying to expand a composer's IMDb page and I'm looking for missing credits and find thigns I can then search for on youtube to verify.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2016 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

I checked the BMI website and it's quite interesting.

For instance, for the tracks Paul Mounsey helped with for Age of Ultron Elfman is still credited for 95%+ of the cue; I'm guessing these were just touch-ups on cues Elfman had already written. On the other hand, he's credited with 50% of the Mr Peabody tracks which is a lot more vague.

 
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