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 Posted:   Feb 3, 2015 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Here's a link to my other Youtube channel with lots of Golden Child clips too.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFRNy0AiJq8vq3ff2M7ONPA

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2015 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I'm sorry... I swear my intention wasn't to be cruel or to belittle your hard work. I think you're probably right about the train cue (although it does do weird things up against the picture, like the heroic bit when Jean Reno flies into the tunnel). I remain a bit skeptical of the others, however.

I'll repeat the fundamentals of my overall point... the initial "b**t" of this score that I bought via Screen Archives in the 90s had no track titles, at least as far as I can remember. I don't have it anymore, so I cannot verify that. Subsequent versions of the b**t DID have titles, but as far as I know, someone just guessed what scenes each piece of music was written for and made those titles up. Some of those same versions that appeared later also included the Hollywood '96 recording of the M:I theme and the end piece that Giacchino('s team) arranged for M:I-3, which all places the legitimacy of the "releases" into question and makes it look more and more like a fan-edit, likely with fake track names.

Because of all that, we don't know what Silvestri REALLY called those pieces of music, and therefore it's extremely difficult to guess which scenes they're intended to play in. We don't know where Silvestri wanted his cues to start, and where he wanted them to end, and so it's nearly impossible to determine what his score in the movie really would have been like based on these clips.

You could be right, of course, but you also could be taking a cue from the end of the movie and placing it under a scene at the beginning of the movie that it was not intended to cover (although it may well "seem to work"). In the event that you've unknowingly done that, it would be easy for someone to look at your video, think "wow, Silvestri really got it wrong here - he totally should have been fired!" and form an opinion that just doesn't really jive with the reality of what the guy was trying to do.

This isn't a situation like Elfman's rejected Train cue from SPIDER-MAN 2 or Maurice Jarre's entire score to THE RIVER WILD, where we know what scenes the music was meant to score. This is guess work. It's a fun experiment, but it's still guess work, using untitled tracks from a score which, as Ford constantly reminded people in the other tread, was never even finished in the first place.

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2015 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I totally see where you're coming from and you have every right to be skeptical of these. I'm confident that my videos are correct. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent agonizing over them. And yes, it is all guesswork but I think im guessing right 99% of the time. Hopefully one day the score will get an official release and we can see for ourselves.
Also, I don't go solely by track title. They are often misleading or vague. Something like "Prague Setup" could go anywhere. I had to scan endlessly to figure that one out.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2015 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

I absolutely hate what Silvestri did for M:I. Those guitars are brutal.

-Erik-


The guitars in the train sequence are pretty absurd.

 
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