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 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Okay, before I even start to discuss this score, I need a fellow FSMer to help me out here.
The first 4 notes of the Main Theme to this score (listen to track 2) are exactly the same as another score I own.
I think it's a Goldsmith (Islands in the Stream keeps coming to mind but I don't think it's that).
Can anyone help me here? It's drivin' me crazy!!!

Cheers! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

No idea what those first four notes might be, there's definitely a LAWRENCE OF ARABIA vibe in the progressions though (you know, "Arabic sounding" and whatnot).

However - It really must be said that this is a truly marvelous score. The main theme's a killer and the number of different things Scott does with it are astounding. I love how he lets bass strings slowly carry the melody during the end title. Marvelous.

And the love theme cue - I think it's "A Letter from Hannah"? - where Scott lets a secondary melody first get carried by a virtuosic flute solo and then give way to lush strings against a bed of rolling, percolating celesta arpeggios is fukcin' brilliant. Most composers would have sufficed with a simple, forgettable half-assed attempt at a love theme for this quick, incidental cue, but Scott instead provides a piece of breathtaking magic.

God, I love this man's music.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Okay...I did a complete mental shutdown...blocked out all other interference...and played the theme over and over in my head until it struck...AND!!!

It reminds me of Bruce Broughton's OLD MAN AND THE SEA (TV score).
The first 4 notes are exact, but Broughton guitars them up and makes them sound Spanish, while Scott is doing the Arabic version (apparently, it's all based on a Rodriguez theme anyway, so it always leads back to classical).

Right, I can continue with my listening now and judge this score on it's own merits.
Be back soon. Please share while I listen smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

apparently, it's all based on a Rodriguez theme anyway, so it always leads back to classical

Who? I'm intrigued...

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Do you mean (Joaquín) Rodrigo?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Oops! Yes. That's the fella. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

DP

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2015 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

3P

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2016 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

A question regarding an issue with "KING OF THE WIND" by John Scott (JSCD109).

I bought this CD twice, from different sellers, and both times it is suffering from the so called "bronzing effect" (instead of plain silver, the disc shows an uneven brown coloring on its top side).

I was told this unfortunate effect appears on the first pressing of this title, as manufactured by PDO, and apparently does not appears on next pressings, presumably manufactured by other plants.

Could someone please let me know, if you have an original copy as well, does it has or not that brown coloring on the top side of the CD and what is the name of the manufacturer??

Excuse me for this complicated detail, but I am struggling with that awful brown coloring.

Thanks in advance for your kind help!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2016 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

When I was hunting down all the available John Scott titles a few years ago, KING OF THE WIND was long OOP and quite rare, but I managed to grab a copy off ebay (or amazon) for a decent price.
It wasn't until I read (later on) about the bronzing/dodgy discs that I checked all that I had.
Luckily, only about 3 titles were those type ones (KOTW and I think the others were the Cousteau 75 Years disc and Winter People).
Extra luckily, they played (and still play) fine, but I've ran off CD-R copies of them just in case (and saved them to my laptop too), so if they do ever go worng smile in my lifetime, I've backed them up.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2016 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   KT   (Member)

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 Posted:   Nov 17, 2016 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

CD issues aside (mine's in storage so I have no idea what condition it's in - Long live iTunes!), I'm just not sure I can throw around enough superlatives in describing this score. It's just so full of so many great themes, orchestrations, harmonies and thematic variations... It's essentially a more "adventurous" take on his HAREM score, with some Tchaikovsky-like influences in the orchestrations at time, but distinctly and 100% Scott's voice, as always.

This man's magnificence just never fails to beguile, and anyone looking to expand beyond the core few scores most collectors know Scott for (Final Countdown, Antony and Cleopatra, Shoot to Kill, King Kong Lives) would do well to start with this one. It's just amazing.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2016 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

The bronzing subject has appeared in other threads, in some detail.
CDs with a transparent plastic center circle should not suffer from bronzing. Earlier CDs did not have the sealing benefit of the plastic center – so basically the edge of the layer that had been punched was exposed to the air and rusted.
PDO offered free replacements of these discs for several years, but I understand that ceased a while back. Some labels (like Hyperion) were very badly affected by the PDO pressing problems.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Revisited this today and my God, it's just glorious.

The abundance of thematic ideas, the richness and variety of the orchestration, the classicism in the flourishing counterpoint - It's real, true, full-blooded MUSIC of the highest order. Just remarkable. And it's still not even one of Scott's best at that...

Pick this up if you don't have it, people. It rewards endlessly, like all Scott's work.

 
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