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 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

Trying to build up a collection of these. I've got AIRPORT, CLEOPATRA, SOUND OF MUSIC and THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY. Anyone know if any more are available?

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   profundo   (Member)

The recent release of "Oklahoma!" on Blu-ray last year has both the Todd-AO & Cinemascope versions of the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Spence   (Member)

Definitely would be happy to see Around In The World In Eighty Days and The Alamo get a Blu-ray release sometime soon. I thought (perhaps mistakingly) that Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a Todd A-O film. The Blu-ray for that one is fantastic in any case.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES was Todd-AO 70mm and looks pretty good on the Twilight Time Blu-ray (though I think it could still stand some digital tweaking, mostly to even out excessive contrast). I'm hoping they get DOCTOR DOLITTLE pretty soon.

Also, CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES was shot in Todd-AO, though the 35mm anamorphic version, not what you're talking about, but I thought I'd just mention it.

Anyway, here's the Wikipedia page on Todd-AO:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd-AO

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


Also out on Blu-Ray are:

SOUTH PACIFIC
THE BIBLE ... In the Beginning
HELLO, DOLLY!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Also out on Blu-Ray are:

SOUTH PACIFIC
THE BIBLE ... In the Beginning
HELLO, DOLLY!



THE BIBLE was in Dimension 150, not Todd-AO. But if the original poster was interested in Blu-rays from any film that originated on 70mm, that (along with PATTON) could be included, as well as all Super Panavision and Ultra Panavision films.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)



THE BIBLE was in Dimension 150, not Todd-AO. But if the original poster was interested in Blu-rays from any film that originated on 70mm, that (along with PATTON) could be included, as well as all Super Panavision and Ultra Panavision films.

Wasn’t Dimension 150 a variation of Todd-AO ?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2015 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

THE BIBLE was in Dimension 150, not Todd-AO. But if the original poster was interested in Blu-rays from any film that originated on 70mm, that (along with PATTON) could be included, as well as all Super Panavision and Ultra Panavision films.

Wasn’t Dimension 150 a variation of Todd-AO ?


Yes. The D-150 process was a unique set of lenses adapted to Todd-AO 65mm cameras by Dr. Richard Vetter. The process was projected through a special D-150 projection lens onto a curved, ultra-large screen in theatres so-equipped and designated.

The Super Panavision 70 process (also known on a few films by Panavision 70 or simply as Super Panavision, Panavision Super 70 and Panavision System-65) has an identical spec to the 24-fps Todd-AO 70mm system.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2015 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

The Super Panavision 70 process (also known on a few films by Panavision 70 or simply as Super Panavision, Panavision Super 70 and Panavision System-65) has an identical spec to the 24-fps Todd-AO 70mm system.

It's really a "rose by any other name" kind of thing. What was the difference? They were made by different companies. What was the difference between CinemaScope and Panavision? Answer: Nothing. Same system or process. CinemaScope had imperfect lens assemblies in the early years. Panavision came into being to create better lens, but the system remained the same. CinemaScope just became Panavision. 70mm non-anamorphic widescreen, basically all the same process. Super Technirama 70, now that was another process. 70mm didn't come into that until the printing phase.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2015 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

The Super Panavision 70 process (also known on a few films by Panavision 70 or simply as Super Panavision, Panavision Super 70 and Panavision System-65) has an identical spec to the 24-fps Todd-AO 70mm system.

It's really a "rose by any other name" kind of thing. What was the difference? They were made by different companies. What was the difference between CinemaScope and Panavision? Answer: Nothing. Same system or process. CinemaScope had imperfect lens assemblies in the early years. Panavision came into being to create better lens, but the system remained the same. CinemaScope just became Panavision. 70mm non-anamorphic widescreen, basically all the same process. Super Technirama 70, now that was another process. 70mm didn't come into that until the printing phase.


You got that right Rory.

Todd-AO and Super Panavision 70 use the same SMPTE spec (truly the best of the widescreen processes, IMHO).

The Panavision anamorphic lens design (mostly) solved the distortion issues commonly associated with the CinemaScope lenses (actors having the "mumps", excessively bent horizon lines, etc.)

Technirama was the VistaVision process (8-perf 35mm film run horizontally in the camera) with a 1.5:1 compression anamorphic lens. It got the "Super Technirama 70" moniker when they printed that up to 70mm (SPARTACUS, SLEEPING BEAUTY, EL CID, etc.).

Movies in the 50's and 60's sure had a myriad of formats to try and make movies "special" and get folks away from TV. Like all technological advances of it, some vestiges of it linger on in today's movie making technology.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2015 - 5:15 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

Thanks to all for the above.

Bob. I'm interested in all the 70mm processes but have a particular soft spot for the credit 'Produced in Todd A-O'. I can't seem to get to the bottom of where this appears in the credits on THE ALAMO.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2015 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Panavision70   (Member)

The reason you can't find a Todd-AO credit in "The Alamo" is that most often the credit was removed when Todd-AO films were printed down to 35mm scope. I assume 35mm prints were used for television, VHS and DVDs.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2015 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

I think you're probably right P70. The credit does appear on the Blu Ray's of SOUND OF MUSIC, AIRPORT and others but perhaps they were taken from 70mm masters.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2015 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

It also appears on the non Blu Ray CAN-CAN.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2015 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The reason you can't find a Todd-AO credit in "The Alamo" is that most often the credit was removed when Todd-AO films were printed down to 35mm scope. I assume 35mm prints were used for television, VHS and DVDs.


That was true for the advertising on THE ALAMO as well. Check the wording beneath the title on these two, otherwise identical, one-sheet posters--first the roadshow poster, then the general release poster.



 
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