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Whoa! I hope it's not a typo. It was advertised as Music and effects just a couple of weeks ago. ..
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Actually it's an isolated score + EFFECTS track. Sorry...
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Awesome news! I received a reply from Twilight Time regarding if the description of "Isolated Score" is accurate: "It is - at first we were playing safe because the music tracks hadn't been found, but now we have them."
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Yes, it's true - and ordered. Does anyone know the source used for the Vangelis isolated music track? Ordered as well. I don't have a clue, but I'm curious to hear if the isolated score recreates the film edits (tracking, looping, etc.), or the music as originally spotted and composed. If it's the latter, the source might be the 1st generation masters, or something close to it. Here's to more isolated scores from his 80s work, such as Missing, Francesco, or...dare I say Blade Runner
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Feb 26, 2015 - 2:49 AM
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Looking forward to this blu-ray with its isolated score. I've always thought Vangelis' ebullient score was the best aspect of this uninspired version of the mutiny on the Bounty with its pedestrian direction by Roger Donaldson. It started out as a two-part epic developed and co-written by David Lean which Lean was going to direct. He famously spent a decade of his life on it. I would rather have seen that. One thing that works very well is the mutiny itself, which unfolds more or less the way David Lean intended. The Bounty ship, designed in part by Lean and built for his version of this film in 1978 with money from producer Dino DiLaurentiis, has become a tourist attraction at seaports all over the world replacing the previous ship, built in 1960 for the Brando version, which sunk off the coast of North Carolina during Hurricane Sandy. The Bounty is a hobby of mine -- the history, the books, the films. I collect everything. Did you know, for example, that a direct descendent of Fletcher Christian from Pitcairn Island was a chef in London with his own cooking show? I'd like to get that program in my collection. No Bounty collection is complete without the cooking show ....
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Feb 26, 2015 - 10:28 PM
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Of all the interpretations, Richard Hough's reasoning in Captain Bligh and Mr. Christian (published 1973) is grounded in the evidence and behavior of the time and makes the most sense to most historians. Hough's characterizations also provide actors with substantial meat to chew on. The Bounty is officially based on this book, although scriptwriter Robert Bolt had additional sources when he was working with David Lean, including Bligh's fair log and the courts martial transcript (which was published in the newspapers as it unfolded). The film plays fairly close to the book. Me thinks Anthony Hopkins was exactly the right actor to play Bligh. The answer to your questions resides in one word: sex. The island women were young, naked primitives in a savage (albeit relatively peaceful) society, sexually aggressive, worshipful of the white men. The repressed English sailors had never encountered anyone like the girls of the tropical island. The encounter rattled them. They all became involved emotionally, and when this paradise was taken from them, they got rattled again. And then there was the matter of Lt. Bligh's harsh language ... I don't think Kaper would have understood where Vangelis was coming from, but then again, the great film composers have a way of constantly surprising us, don't they.
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The elements that turned up for the music are mono. They were mixed and matched to create the assembly. There are a few sections where the music continues a bit beyond the parts used in the movie. Mike
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Thanks for the update, Mike. I assume those mono elements underwent a stereo 'remix', similar to your work on The Warriors?
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Mar 1, 2015 - 9:30 AM
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Wonderful response, Richard. It could be surmised, therefore, the Admiralty was in serious error of judgement when concocting the enterprise in the first place - on the grounds that navel matters can arise with seamen while not necessarily on board ship! The Bounty's mission was business as usual. The British had to feed slaves that they were transporting to the southern colonies in America, among other places, so the H.M.S. Bounty was sent to gather bradfruit, a cheap easily grown food that they wanted to cultivate in closer, local climates. There were other such missions, although not that many to Hawaii. The Admiralty had no reason to think this mission would be different than any other. The prolonged voyage with its storms, the harsh discipline, combined with the resentment of some men who had been pressed into service against their will, all contributed to the discontent aboard the Bounty before the ship had reached its destination. Once the ship arrived, it just got more complicated. Several writers dig into the causes of the mutiny and its tragic aftermath. The novelists Nordoff and Hall understood these matters to some extent in their classic trilogy (Mutiny On the Bounty, Men Against the Sea, Pitcairn's Island) but the historical treatments are more lucid. Hough's book, mentioned above, is a good place to start. If only David Lean had been enabled to make his film, what a masterpiece we'd have. I guess The Bounty will have to do. But if there were poll for Kaper vs Vangelis, I'd vote Kaper.
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So, does anyone know if the release date has been pushed back? On Screen Archives, you can only 'pre-order' the Blu-ray, even though we've passed March 10
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Mar 15, 2015 - 1:56 AM
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So, does anyone know if the release date has been pushed back? On Screen Archives, you can only 'pre-order' the Blu-ray, even though we've passed March 10 From their website: UPDATE for the March releases -- hi all, just a heads-up we have been advised by our East Coast-based replicators, Cinram, that owing to inclement weather conditions shipments of the new titles to SAE may be delayed, so consequently SAE's shipping dates to consumers will be pushed back. SAE will likely receive the new releases on a "staggered" basis, so consumers who have only ordered one or two titles will get theirs sent first - those that ordered all will be held up till everything is in. An additional note: Since THE BOUNTY required extensive music and audio restoration, it will be running approximately one week behind the others. Thanks.
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From their website: UPDATE for the March releases -- hi all, just a heads-up we have been advised by our East Coast-based replicators, Cinram, that owing to inclement weather conditions shipments of the new titles to SAE may be delayed, so consequently SAE's shipping dates to consumers will be pushed back. SAE will likely receive the new releases on a "staggered" basis, so consumers who have only ordered one or two titles will get theirs sent first - those that ordered all will be held up till everything is in. An additional note: Since THE BOUNTY required extensive music and audio restoration, it will be running approximately one week behind the others. Thanks. Ah, OK. Must have missed it on their Facebook page. Thanks.
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