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Mar 4, 2015 - 4:37 PM
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Mike West
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To be honest, though there are some interesting summeries in there which might of interest to people who are not familiar with the scores (on the other hand, why would they read that?) I don't like your kind of hubristic, undifferentiated and biased style of writing. Actually nobody asked you for your opinion, so why call the commercial works of others disastrous, talk of failures, and depreciate them in this quasi-academic "reviews". It is not really constructive and it is hard to see what expertise you bring with you to thaz qualifies you to.
Sorry for my honest reaction, and I am saying this as someone who actually has obviously the same preferences.
But your categorical approach does not do justice. You know Silvestri's Cap score is actually also full of clichès the same way the Remote Control influenced scores are, but with different clichès. Qualitatively there is no difference, depends on the aesthetic the film makers chose. Cap 1 was their period picture, so they wanted it old school.
Film scoring is more about design than art, and due to those crazy schedules it is almost impossible and rare that really good and inspired and original composing can happen. Because that needs time. Hence the repetition and recycling, even with the great old school composers in the past, the more so today.
you gain nothing when you condemn a certain approach or aesthetic the filmmakers decided to go for, like it or not.
minor mistakes I noticed, in Cap 2 the beginning is actually the only spot with Silvestri's theme.
When the line "looks like you are giving the orders now" comes, in that surrounding there is a similar
chord progression than in Silvestri's B theme, but that is rather a coincidence.
by the way, Loki's theme in Thor 2 owes a lot to that Dark Knight cello/double-bass line which rises in those circling figures, and which Zimmer used seldomly in the last two Batman films.
the first motif of Doyle's Thor-theme (not to be mistaken as the theme, which is an important difference in musical grammar) ist not 5 notes as you say but 4, according to Doyle himself in an FSMO interview. Like T H O R.
I think what you think is the fifth note is the release of the fourth into the third note in another part than the melody.
Maybe it is not really composed in a way to make that clear.
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and a lot of your reports seem to be just speculations, for example the reason why they chose Silvestri for Avengers and how they instructed him how to use themes. Where did you get that from?
Maybe you can give a source for that, looks like constructed that reasoning.
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Mar 4, 2015 - 10:50 PM
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Mike West
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Why, I do it because I'm a fan, of course. I enjoy music and enjoy writing about music. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the reviews, but reviewing by its very nature is qualitative and hubristic and you can't take that out of it. But they moved you enough to write a response, so I must be doing something right!
It will please you to know that I actually research and document my sources extensively; I just don't append the sources to the reviews because it would make them look like a graduate thesis. My primary source for "The Avengers" review was Silvestri's interview with Film Music Magazine (http://www.filmmusicmag.com/?p=9475).
I see what you mean.
Would be nevertheless good to know how you got all the informations concerning the decisions of the filmmakers and composers. They are nearby, but with no sources this appears to be nothing more than fan-boy fantasy.
yes, your "reviews" provoked a response. I read your reviews lying in bed with a cold out of boredom to be honest, and the tone of your writing made me a bit angry.
You are absolutely wrong about the nature of a review, and that is exactly the point.
To say something is disastrous in a subordinate clause like you do a few times, and speaking of failures etc.,
this is not the tone of a good professional review, and even more so of a review by a fan-boy. As I said, it completely misses reality.
I did not say your reviews are failures and disastrous, I chose another tone in my response.
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