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 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Another of my guaranteed-to-fall-off-the-page topics. smile

During the 1970s, TV programs as varied as Kolchak: the Night Stalker*, The Rockford Files* and All in the Family commented upon the social, political (just mentioning it, not discussing it), and the subject of this post--pop cultural idiocies of that particular era. Nothing was safe from criticism and everything was open to comment. Whether it be an entire episode dedicated to a specific topic or merely a witty and spot-on throwaway one liner, the 1970s had commentary to spare.

The 1980s? For the life of me, I can't find anything. Perhaps UK TV programs did so but their American counterparts rarely, if ever, did. However, if anyone here does know of any, please share!

It seems that even by the mid '70s, TV programs shifted towards total non-think entertainment and instead of commenting or poking fun at the less-wonderful pop culture trends of the decade, embraced it to the full. Clothing styles, health fads, and anything else one can imagine was depicted, but not with anything resembling a critical eye.

Maybe I'm not watching enough--or didn't watch enough at the time--'80s TV programs to see that there was in fact some kind of satirical lampooning of the decade's trends and fads. Thoughts?





*Both involved David Chase.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Perhaps "Square Pegs" or "Family Ties"? I don't really remember much about either show.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Perhaps "Square Pegs" or "Family Ties"? I don't really remember much about either show.

Oh yeah, Family Ties! There was that generation gap between yuppie Alex and his ex-hippie boomer parents. However, since Michael J. Fox was the star and most-popular aspect of the show, I wonder if the lampooning of '80s yuppies can even be considered as such since so many people embraced that stuff back then ("Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed works.")

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

Alex Keaton's Republican views and his almost fanboyish devotion to Ronald Reagan can certainly be seen as Lampooning the 80's Yuppie culture.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Alex Keaton's Republican views and his almost fanboyish devotion to Ronald Reagan can certainly be seen as Lampooning the 80's Yuppie culture.

Now that I think about it, I think APK had a RR framed photo on the wall, carried a briefcase to high school, and always wore a suit!

Okay, any other shows?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, the superficiality of many 80s TV shows is itself a commentary on the pervasive yuppie mentality of the decade. But it depends on where you are in the world, of course. Here in Norway, we only had one tv channel for most of the 80s, and one of their mantras was to teach the Norwegian population just as much as entertain. So there was always a higher 'relevance' in whatever show was produced internally or imported from abroad.

But hey -- there were also some great TV shows in the 80s that had more depth and/or social relevance on occasion.

For example THE EQUALIZER, THE COSBY SHOW (middle class black family), PUNKY BREWSTER (social inquality, children's rights), MURPHY BROWN (journalism), HILL STREET BLUES, V, DR WHO, MIAMI VICE, YES MINISTER, LA LAW, BLACK ADDER, NOT THE NINE O'CLOCK NEWS, CHEERS etc. And those are just off the top of my head.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

A number of the hourlong dramas of the era certainly incorporated social commentary, even if the sitcoms largely veered away. I'm sure you can find plenty of examples in everything from Hill Street Blues to L. A. Law.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I almost forgot:

SPITTING IMAGE!! Now there's a brilliant tv show that certainly lampooned the time.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2015 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Yeah, the superficiality of many 80s TV shows is itself a commentary on the pervasive yuppie mentality of the decade.

The 60's and 70's were heavy into social and political debate which were reflected in movies and television shows of the time. (here in the US) Then Star Wars changed everything in 77. (You know every thread has to mention Star Trek or Star Wars, right?)

People fell in love with pure escapism. They were burnt out on stories that reflected real life, (wheres the fun in that after a hard day of work in a recession?) and just wanted to watch escapist entertainment that helped them forget about their problems, or the worlds problems.

Entertainment in the 70's also started to politically divide the demographics as ppl started to get the nuances of the messages and didn't watch some shows because they didn't like it's social or political slant. That probably wasn't making studio executives very happy either.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2017 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'd like to expand the topic to include films and music, too.

So here we go...

the music video of "Everything Counts" by synth-pop group Depeche Mode eviscerates the greedy sods of the 1980s. Great chorus that says it all.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2017 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Alex Keaton's Republican views and his almost fanboyish devotion to Ronald Reagan

You mean Richard Nixon. Observe:

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2017 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Golden Girls did a lot of gentle social commentary, though I don't recall how much political. Much more about the state of being older in a youth-driven culture, and what women of a certain age and status have to contend with. Easy to take lightly because of its snarky, joke-driven style, but consistently deeper than I expect (actually just started watching it from the beginning last night).

Frankly a level of sophistication that I don't see anywhere around me today, where so much is focused on transgressiveness and outrageous, adolescent or criminal behavior described as "adult" or "mature" or some other such laughable epithet.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2017 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Alex Keaton's Republican views and his almost fanboyish devotion to Ronald Reagan

You mean Richard Nixon. Observe:



Yeah, he was really into Dick.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2017 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Did i ever tell you jim i met depeche mode early days around the time of New Life?
I did? How boring. "... Name-drops keep fall-ing on my head..."

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2017 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The announcement of Criterion's dvd for LOST IN AMERICA prompts a bump for this thread. The film is described as a "hysterical satire of Reagan-era values."

https://www.criterion.com/films/29022-lost-in-america

Sounds good to me.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

This post is from another thread, but it applies to this one, as well, as it does comment on 1980s Yuppiedom:

I was trying to remember if this was from the 1985 Twilight Zone revival series or Amazing Stories, but it turned out to be the latter:

"What If?" Stumbled on this episode some years back, long after it originally aired, but it was so wonderfully autobiographical in some ways. LOL

"Ignored by his self-absorbed, social-climbing parents, 5-year-old Jonah Kelley wanders his lonely, sterile house and then the outside world, searching for someone who will see him, while things and people disappear in his wake."

The incomparable Billy Goldenberg composed the score, and since I'm largely unfamiliar with the series and its music, for now I'll say this was my favorite score of the show.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0511130/

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 10:01 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Give it up, Jimbo.
Nobody cares frown

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 4:42 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Give it up, Jimbo.
Nobody cares frown


In the cynical '70s film thread, I wondered aloud if there were any cynical 1980s films, and even Bob DiMucci had difficulty finding many that fit that bill.

Let's face it: the 1980s were a time of mind-numbing conformity. Even then, the early '70s seemed like a distant memory.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Cheers? Night Court? Who's the Boss? The Cosby Show? Growing Pains? Knight Rider? Galactica 80? The Young Ones?

Oh. Wait. I'm just listing TV shows from the 80's.

Sorry Jimbo. I missed the premise of your topic.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   dtw   (Member)

They Live?

 
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