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 Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

The second-worst 007 movie ever made...just terrible.

Agreed.

What was the first worst?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

The second-worst 007 movie ever made...just terrible.

Agreed.

What was the first worst?

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

The second-worst 007 movie ever made...just terrible.

Agreed.

What was the first worst?


Do you even need to ask...?

"Yo momma!"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

The second-worst 007 movie ever made...just terrible.

No, you're mixing up "A view to a kill" with "Casino Royale", and I don't mean the 60s version which was abysmal too. C.R. was CRap, front to back, no skid marks, no, the full peanutbutter custard all the way down the trouser legs.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

*Zorin shoots the miners with glee*

This isn't fun... not fun at all. I hate this movie.


Yes it is so violent, unlike Elliot Carver who has his henchman shoot the navy crew in the water, or Xenia Onnatop getting her rocks off on machine gunning the radar station crew.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 1:39 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

The second-worst 007 movie ever made...just terrible.

No, you're mixing up "A view to a kill" with "Casino Royale", and I don't mean the 60s version which was abysmal too. C.R. was CRap, front to back, no skid marks, no, the full peanutbutter custard all the way down the trouser legs.

D.S.




Yeah.

Obviously, you guys have strong feelings about the 2006 version of Casino Royale.

There'll never be another stab at it, unfortunately.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

*Zorin shoots the miners with glee*

This isn't fun... not fun at all. I hate this movie.


Yes it is so violent, unlike Elliot Carver who has his henchman shoot the navy crew in the water, or Xenia Onnatop getting her rocks off on machine gunning the radar station crew.

D.S.


Difference being that those movies weren't as graphic and didn't draw it out nearly as long as A View to a Kill does. Unlike the navy crew and radar station personal, these miners were on Zorin's side. There was no thematic or story driven reason why we had to watch Zorin gun down his men for several minutes. We're already in the last act of the film and it's like the film makers don't think audiences will realize that Zorin is the bad guy unless they dial it up to 11.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

*Zorin shoots the miners with glee*

This isn't fun... not fun at all. I hate this movie.


Yes it is so violent, unlike Elliot Carver who has his henchman shoot the navy crew in the water, or Xenia Onnatop getting her rocks off on machine gunning the radar station crew.

D.S.


Difference being that those movies weren't as graphic and didn't draw it out nearly as long as A View to a Kill does. Unlike the navy crew and radar station personal, these miners were on Zorin's side. There was no thematic or story driven reason why we had to watch Zorin gun down his men for several minutes. We're already in the last act of the film and it's like the film makers don't think audiences will realize that Zorin is the bad guy unless they dial it up to 11.


I must be watching a different movie to you guys.

In the version of AVTAK I have, there are probably 6 or 8 shots of Zorin using an Uzi on his own guys, intercut with far longer sequences of the mine flooding. There is one, perhaps two, shots which include blood on the victims so hardly graphic. If you cut all these shots together you would have 20 seconds of footage tops.

And the scene does have a valid purpose - it is to show Max is totally bonkers (hence why he laughs while he guns his guys down). Of course we already know he is the baddie but until this point we haven't really seen anything which demonstrates how totally crackers Zorin is.

I actually think the scene works very well and is in no way gratuitous (or even especially violent).

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

And the scene does have a valid purpose - it is to show Max is totally bonkers (hence why he laughs while he guns his guys down). Of course we already know he is the baddie but until this point we haven't really seen anything which demonstrates how totally crackers Zorin is.

We've already had instances where Zorin is shown to be totally bonkers, so why does adding more layers to it make him any more effective? The film even establishes him as a World War II nazi experiment for crying out loud. There's villainy with a dose of bonkers, and than there's nothing but bonkers. I get it already.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

And I believe he's at least half-chuckling yet again as he slides off the Golden Gate.

The funnybone moment for me is Grace Jones' pronounciation of "hee-lee-copta."

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I didn't even remember Zorin shooting his people until this thread.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

It happened in FYEO, in the pre-title sequence. Blofeld zaps the, um, heeleecopta pilot ferrying Bond as one of his "less useful" people. And yes, he was chuckling too.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I didn't even remember Zorin shooting his people until this thread.


I agree with Mike_J - perhaps for the first time in a Bond thread!

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The villains are just cutting overhead, as Franz Sanchez would say. They're reducing their eventual pension costs.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2015 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I didn't even remember Zorin shooting his people until this thread.


I agree with Mike_J - perhaps for the first time in a Bond thread!


And the 4 horsemen gather in the sky......

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2015 - 2:36 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I didn't even remember Zorin shooting his people until this thread.


I agree with Mike_J - perhaps for the first time in a Bond thread!


i agree with Tall Guy. And i agree with Mike J. And Olson Johnson is right about Dr Sam Johnson being right.

and i definitely agree wih Xenias orgasmic noises when shooting the russian operatives in goldeneye- ha ha.

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2015 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Roger Moore and Christopher Walken--as well as cast members from previous Bond films (including Christopher Lee "Dean of Villains")--appear on ABC-TV's "Good Morning, America" in May 1985 to promote all things Bond. ABC is the US network that aired the Bond films during that time.



Here's Rog on MTV with the forever-scorching-hot Nina Blackwood, promoting AVTAK. Duran Duran and John Barry are mentioned.



 
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