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 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I posted earlier in the Monkey King thread that i found it interesting to hear that Christopher Young was asked to write hummable themes, something "old fashioned".

Is that how some filmmakers now see that kind of music?



Surprised? So many people think Beethoven as old fashioned...

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2015 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Timothy J. Phlaps   (Member)

So many people think Beethoven as old fashioned...

Well, it IS 23 years old.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2015 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I think there is a major difference in two aspects (among many others):
1.
the tools nowadays in film making including scoring
2.
and the role of the composer.

Speaking of the second aspect:
In the 70ties and 80ties and even early 90ties the composer had much more influence and could convince
the filmmaker of a certain idea or concept, and then follow that and create a score based on musical needs.
Directors hired composers for that influence, for that guidance, and trusted them.
When you listen and watch or read making of reports of scores this becomes very apparent.
The composer had much more power, could argue for an idea. Sometimes he lost a bit of his approach,
but still, the composers were able to do what a composer does, to compose music.

The first aspect is connected to the second. Since nowadays the film is not locked anymore, and they keep working on it to the last moment, everything in the creative process has become more something like a trial and error thing. With all the mock-up technology also for the film score. So the directors and producers don't need to really think out how it will work, they can try out and try out and try out. And they have a musical concept they put in the movie before scoring takes place.
That is why nowadays film composers do not do what composers do usually.
They create a sound design to please the directors and producers, they are not asked for their ideas,
they are asked to copy a certain idea and concept which the filmmakers already have (from another picture usually).


The Jaws and Star Wars scores are examples. Williams convinced the directors from an idea
for the score.

Alien is an example for a producer already spoiling the process for the needs of the music.
In interviews he claims that you have no idea of the music until you hear it on the scoring stage.
Not on a piano before when the composer plays.
That tells a lot.

 
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