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 Posted:   Apr 14, 2015 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Loverozsa   (Member)

Can James or someone in the know update us on the "Sodom" recording sessions. I'm hoping we might get some
video clips of the sessions as well. Many Thanks!

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2015 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

FFS, stop keep starting a new thread about the same thing all the time.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=109027&forumID=1&archive=0

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=108827&forumID=1&archive=0

You won't be able to own the thing until it's ready, so why keep asking?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2015 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

Gee, I wonder what FFS means? smile

Actually I thought my eyes were even more blurry than usual and I was seeing in triplicate.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2015 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)

To the point, there are many of us who DO wonder how the sessions are going, so there!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2015 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

To the point, there are many of us who DO wonder how the sessions are going, so there!

Me too, and the above two threads originally started by Loverozsa asking for updates are more than enough to stay on top of things. No need for a new thread a week on this... just clutters the joint. Looking forward to "March of the Elamites!"

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2015 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

Doug Raynes posted of Face Book that, "he was somewhere in Prague at the moment" but he wasn't allowed to comment further.

He appeared to be in a recording studio with a rather large orchestra.

Exciting days for all Rozsa fans.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

Doug Raynes posted of Face Book that, "he was somewhere in Prague at the moment" but he wasn't allowed to comment further.

He appeared to be in a recording studio with a rather large orchestra.

Exciting days for all Rozsa fans.


https://www.facebook.com/tadlowmusic/videos/vb.100002576978541/776364269126132/?type=2&theater

A little sample .... don't forget to click HD button to get it in focus!

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

Awesome, that's the only word for it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

That piece has of course only ever been recorded once before, for the Rome LP 'Great Movie Themes Composed by Miklos Rozsa' now included in the FSM Treasury Box.


The use of the horns to introduce the love theme, and the generally stately way the piece develops is actually more evocative than the OST variations, which each leap right in with the strings. This puts it in BIBLICAL territory. The Shuah love theme is there too, in an edited version of he Intermezzo treatment. And of course that ominous statement of the film's main motif, right at the start.

One of Rozsa's scores of scores, just such a pity it wasn't stuck on a better film.

This is what one might call a 'Dan Hobgood' score, in that no less than three of the main themes, the main love theme, the Hebrew march theme, and the longer treatment of the main theme in the Intermezzo ALL use the same central trio 'B' section, a great economy of composition, very inter-related.

Rozsa's epic scores didn't deteriorate after 'Ben-Hur', in many ways they got better, but the films didn't, and sometimes the editing of the films led to choices in transitions between themes that a concert goer might find quixotic, but the scores were still as good and ever, and indeed improving.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Doug Raynes posted of Face Book that, "he was somewhere in Prague at the moment" but he wasn't allowed to comment further.

He appeared to be in a recording studio with a rather large orchestra.

Exciting days for all Rozsa fans.


https://www.facebook.com/tadlowmusic/videos/vb.100002576978541/776364269126132/?type=2&theater

A little sample .... don't forget to click HD button to get it in focus!




Sounds great James! Can't wait for the CD! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

Thanks for the sample, looking forward to this.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2015 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

Yes, certainly wets the appetite.

Oddly, a friend of mine was saying he thought the diegetic music in S & G interfered with the flow of the purely dramatic music, and that he wished the diegetic and non-diegetic tracks could be seperated. I thought it odd because one would have to do that with every Rozsa epic score from Quo Vadis on, and I've never heard anyone complain about dances, marches etc in those scores before. (Indeed to me they're often highlight tracks). True, S & G probably has the most--all those dances in the queen's court--but I find them all quite fascinating, especially the often strange tempi. Besides, one can always program them out.

Just thought I'd mention that as a point of interest/discussion while we wait--patiently of course--to enjoy the fruits of Rozsa's last great epic effort.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2015 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I hope you fellas are appreciative of the great sacrifice James is making on this: England are in Test with the West Indies at the moment, and he's in Prague.

The man's going through fire and brimstone just to make it sound authentic.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2015 - 10:55 PM   
 By:   Tadlow   (Member)

I hope you fellas are appreciative of the great sacrifice James is making on this: England are in Test with the West Indies at the moment, and he's in Prague.

The man's going through fire and brimstone just to make it sound authentic.


Especially upset to miss James Anderson (my hero as he comes from by home town of Burnley, Lancashire) play in his 100th test match and become England's greatest ever wicket taker! Plus I just love Antigua. ....the things I have to give up in the name of film music restoration!

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2015 - 12:23 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I hope you fellas are appreciative of the great sacrifice James is making on this: England are in Test with the West Indies at the moment, and he's in Prague.

The man's going through fire and brimstone just to make it sound authentic.


Especially upset to miss James Anderson (my hero as he comes from by home town of Burnley, Lancashire) play in his 100th test match and become England's greatest ever wicket taker! Plus I just love Antigua. ....the things I have to give up in the name of film music restoration!


We really appreciate the sacrifices you make on our behalf James.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2015 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)

May we expect some new video of the sessions in the near future? I'm just one of the folks who are anxiously awaiting any news about this landmark recording. "S & G" is the answer to a dream and I so appreciate Tadlow for doing it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2015 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

"S & G" is the answer to a dream

Isn't "Answer to a Dream" the title of one of the tracks?

I'm also checking the forum anxiously each day. I'm even checking James's Facebook page, and I hate Facebook (especially when they keep sending emails urging me to log on).

I remember finally getting hold of the LP in the early 80s and being as thrilled with the music as I was disappointed with the sound (where did they record some of those 60s soundtracks anyway--Fingal's Cave?). I kind of thought that with the popularity of Rozsa's other epic scores S & G was a surety to get a re...er, to get a new recording, but the years went by...pages of the calender peeled off and blew away...I got uglier and more wrinkled, and now here we are in 2015, with half the original fans of the score having passed away in the meantime, and finally here it is, or nearly is.

The thing about S & G is that it has a sort of barbaric wildness about it not to be found in the other epics. It's as if Rozsa let his hair down (something that often happened literally when he was conducting) and just thought, 'Dammit, this is the last of these things I'll ever do so I'm going for broke. They might pour excrement on the picture, but not on the music, not when I'm finished."

It's a very generous score. He could have got away with a couple of themes and variations, but it's as if he had a drawerful of leftover ideas and decided to blow them all on this one score. I mean we get two love themes, both terrific! A theme for Sodom (if they'd showed Gomorrah--where did that get to anyway?--we might have got a theme for that too), a theme for the Hebrews, a theme for the Hebrew's marching, a theme for the Elamites, a theme for the cleaning lady....it just goes on, a real hit for theme junkies like yours truly. In short, if ever a score deserved not to be collecting dust in some manuscript library it's S & G.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2015 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Frank DeWald   (Member)

Isn't the theme for the cleaning lady from DEAD MEN DON'T WEAR PLAID? wink Otherwise a pretty good rundown of the themes, pp!

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2015 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

No, that was the garbage man's theme. People will get them confused!

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2015 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)

About a month since Tadlow posted that wonderful clip, plus another that seems a pre-rec for "Children's Game". I think I'm wearing them out, having been revisiting over and over. This "Sodom and Gomorrah" superfan is wondering if there is any new as of mid-May.

 
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