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"a GIAnt, lumbering hulk floating in space"
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I've heard it called The Motionless Picture.
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I'm KINDA' on the same page with you, zoob.
ST:TMP is certainly a mixed bag of goods, and the Robert Wise Director's Cut provides a far better film than we were treated to back in 1979.
But, all of that aside…even if there had never been a director's cut…I find enough treasure here to enjoy forever. Yeah, the story itself is flawed. But just having my old friends back in the same room is a huge reward for this Original Series lover.
PLUS…also being a Jerry Goldsmith lover AND a Douglas Trumbull lover…there are so many "little" moments in this film where Trumbull's amazing visuals are totally married to Goldsmith's music, that this film becomes, for me at least, FAR, FAR more than the sum of its parts.
I LOVE THIS FILM!
Is it a mess? YES!
Do I love it anyway? YES!
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Besides "The Motionless Picture," the other popular nickname I remember was "Spockalypse Now."
I also remember the theme being used as go-to-commercial music for that year's baseball league playoffs and then the World Series.
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I'm KINDA' on the same page with you, zoob.
ST:TMP is certainly a mixed bag of goods, and the Robert Wise Director's Cut provides a far better film than we were treated to back in 1979.
But, all of that aside…even if there had never been a director's cut…I find enough treasure here to enjoy forever. Yeah, the story itself is flawed. But just having my old friends back in the same room is a huge reward for this Original Series lover.
PLUS…also being a Jerry Goldsmith lover AND a Douglas Trumbull lover…there are so many "little" moments in this film where Trumbull's amazing visuals are totally married to Goldsmith's music, that this film becomes, for me at least, FAR, FAR more than the sum of its parts.
I LOVE THIS FILM!
Is it a mess? YES!
Do I love it anyway? YES!
I'm more with you Chris, as I absolutely LOVED the film on viewing in the best cinema in Sheffield, England back in the day. Their screen was massive, and that first widescreen scene of the Klingon battle blew me away.
Then as the crew were introduced the same feeling occurred. Old friends, now on the big screen. There followed what seemed to me a perfectly adequate story (if already told), and tempo. Oh yes. It never occurred to me that it was slow, because I simply enjoyed it all, so when I saw and heard the reaction from others I was like, “WHAT??” It was great!
I don't mind Once Upon A Time in the West for being told slowly. It's a classic! So what if it wasn't an action picture? Star Wars was, and the sequel would be, and so would many others that came along with the boom the Lucas film caused. I was grateful for the latter too, since it's the reason Star Trek finally got the big screen (and budget to go with it) treatment.
And then as we all know there was the music. Awesome! So too were the sfx. It's not a crime, especially with space opera.
And it made enough money to get a sequel. This time an action film. That's fine. One episode slow and thoughtful, the next an action story. It's called variety.
So yes, I too loved it and still do. But I'm surprised I haven't seen the alternate title I always heard at the time, despite some variations already mentioned:
'Star Trek: the SLOW Motion Picture'.
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Apr 22, 2015 - 8:39 AM
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Dan Hobgood
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My name for ST:TMP? "Pretty good." It's a lot better than it routinely gets credit for being, and it's aged much better than a movie like Star Wars--because it wasn't a movie that relied, predominantly, on the throttle button. The writing wasn't up to Nick Meyer's caliber, but it wasn't bad, either.
In the end, the Enterprise never looked better, space never sounded grander (thanks, Jerry), and Star Trek never looked so larger-than-life.
What's not to like about that?
Dan
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Star trek: the one with the sexiest bald woman ever.
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Apr 22, 2015 - 10:01 AM
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Ado
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Dan stated it rather nicely. Robert Wise was simply the best, most talented, and highest caliber director of any Star Trek movie to this day. It will probably remain that way. You could argue that Trek was not Wise's thing, he did it because his wife loved Trek apparently. Nonetheless Wise brings a weight, seriousness and big movie quality to his movies that all the directors after him have fell short of to various degrees.
The movie that Wise and crew made gave life to the entire franchise of the 12 movies that have, are, coming after it, and the 4 TV shows. There was an enormous undertaking in making these effects and sets for the big screen, and overall, pastel jumpsuits aside, the movie ages pretty excellently. It is a massive movie, and tremendously effective as a lush escapist voyage.
And any movie that does not have a conventional bad guy is already more interesting. Trek has labored with finding an effective antagonist, except for Voyage Home, and come up with bad guys that are usually falling short of persuasive or being very interesting, most recently recycling Khan - Yawn. I know that this violates Trek fans laws, but I think even Khan in the Wrath of Khan is kinda stale and quacky with his old man long hair and bulging chest. The mysterious cloud enshrouded Vger was always compelling and awesome, and much moreso in the original cut. (The Directors cut exposed the entire thing with boringly literal CGI - I wish that cut would die forever. )
Anyway, the ending of swirling lights, maybe hockey, but then again, kinda an interestingly intellectual resolution to a large scale movie, a resolution that does not involve major explosions and pointless destruction - see Star Trek Into Darkness last 30 minutes. And there are some moments of pure visual narrative in there that are a higher peak of motion picture art than anything that Star Wars ever even approached or aspire to.
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I could certainly name at-least one but I will not.
