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 Posted:   Apr 24, 2015 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/04/nasa-may-have-accidentally-developed-a-warp-drive/

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2015 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

If they ever really crack this nut it would be a game changer in human evolution and history. It would open the galaxy to us. Conventional rockets would take multiple thousands of years just to reach the nearest star. Even if we developed the technology to go the quarter the speed of light your still talking a very long time.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)




http://www.inquisitr.com/2040259/did-nasa-just-accidentally-produce-a-warp-bubble-emdrive-could-lead-to-warp-drive/



NASA scientists working on a project called EmDrive have accidentally stumbled upon something that will send science fiction junkies into a frenzy. The possibility of a real-life warp drive has been placed on the table thanks to readings that indicate the EmDrive’s resonance chamber sent beams traveling faster than the speed of light, which would be considered warp speed. Researchers have considered the possibility of traveling faster than the speed of light, but until the recent NASA study, the feat had never been achieved.

Mysterious Universe notes that the NASA scientists are buzzing about the discovery on the NASA Spaceflight Forums. The forums are a place for information regarding the engineering aspects of the space flight and NASA. Therefore, the discovery that laser beams may have just breached the speed of light sent the page into discussions on the long-term implications of warp speed bubbles and the possibly of future warp speed travel.

First, the researchers note that though beams that were shot into the EmDrive were recorded at speeds faster than light, there is still one more study that must be performed to determine with certainty that the light speed barrier was broken. Scientists note that the beams must be shot through the EmDrive in a vacuum environment. This will ensure that the effect was not a result of atmospheric heating.

“I don’t think we can call this length contraction (even though it might look like it) for sure until the same results are in repeated in vacuum.”

Commenters note that the whole finding was one big accident and that researchers did not even realize that the EmDrive was replicating a well-known physicist’s theory of warp bubbles.

“That’s the big surprise. This signature (the interference pattern) on the EmDrive looks just like what a warp bubble looks like. And the math behind the warp bubble apparently matches the interference pattern found in the EmDrive. Seems to have been an accidental connection. They were wondering where this ‘thrust’ might be coming from. One scientists proposed that maybe it’s a warp of the spacetime foam, which is causing the thrust.”

Physicist Miguel Alcubierre is the one who came up with the concept of a warp bubble that would warp spacetime around an object. The idea is that a warp bubble could be created in which a stationary spaceship was placed inside. The bubble in front of the ship would contract spacetime while the spacetime expands behind it. However, the idea was never proven as feasible until the recent EmDrive finding.

Some on the NASA Spacelight forums are looking to the possibility of time travel should the warp speed be achieved in the vacuum setting. They note that the space travelers would not be crushed by the intense speeds because Alcubierre’s model would place the ship in a stationary position.

“Don’t forget that the ship is not really moving at relativistic speeds: space is. Consequently, you could take a trip to Alpha Centauri in 2 days (or less with more power… who knows?), turn your ship around and observe the Earth as it was four years ago (as light has taken four years to get there – slow coach!). You could then observe Alpha Centauri as it is “now”, and how people on the Earth will see it in four years. With this type of technology, it would be possible to predict when locally past events are going to be observable from the point of view of the Earth (or any other point that the light from such events had not yet reached). For example, a ship 1 light-day out from the Earth in the right place could witness a supernova before the Earth does and then be able to return to the Earth almost instantly and tell astronomers about the incoming light wave so that they could prepare to observe it.”

How is that for a mind trip of the day? Could we be traveling across the universe at warp speeds in the near future thanks to a NASA accident?

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 10:05 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Yay, now we can finally study rocks on far away uninhabitable planets.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

A Doctor David White gave a presentation concerning his work on warp drive at NASA not too long ago (6 months?). In it he stated that they had figured out how to surmount the immense power requirements for a warp bubble by playing with the shape etc. , and that they were in the early stages of a Manhattan Project in development. Not theoretical, development.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I really want to believe this is possible, but I just can't quite make the leap.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I really want to believe this is possible, but I just can't quite make the leap.

Sounds to good to be true. I think we will get there eventually technology wise, but I thought it would be several hundred years away.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Understandably, people still can't grasp the immense size of the universe. It's literally inconceivable. I mean you could strap any warp drive you want to a spaceship and travel at full speed for a thousand years before you find anything more interesting than what we can already observe.

We may not be alone in the universe - in fact the mathematical probabilities dictate that we aren't alone - but because of the staggering distances involved, we effectively are alone.

BTW, for you alien invasion fans out there think of this - any alien species with the technology to get here and take over would be so advanced that they simply wouldn't need to. They'd already have everything. Logic 101.

Unless of course Roger Corman et al were right and the spacemen really DO want our women. wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Understandably, people still can't grasp the immense size of the universe. It's literally inconceivable. I mean you could strap any warp drive you want to a spaceship and travel at full speed for a thousand years before you find anything more interesting than what we can already observe.


There's plenty of solar systems to explore in our own galaxy and warp drive would make that possible. But yeah the universe is inconceivably enormous. When you see a lot of those Hubble Telescope pictures their not thousands of stars your looking at in one shot, but thousands of galaxies!

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

We may not be alone in the universe - in fact the mathematical probabilities dictate that we aren't alone - but because of the staggering distances involved, we effectively are alone.

I think subconsciously most people know this, hence why we have religion. Knowing that we're so alone is just so scary, for some. Belief in a loving God is comfort food.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

We may not be alone in the universe - in fact the mathematical probabilities dictate that we aren't alone - but because of the staggering distances involved, we effectively are alone.

I think subconsciously most people know this, hence why we have religion. Knowing that we're so alone is just so scary, for some. Belief in a loving God is comfort food.


I know. You'd think that with 7 billion people on the planet, those folks could find some real comfort with someone somewhere. It's a bottomless pit of neediness - even if god was revealed in all his/her/its celestial glory, it wouldn't be enough. Those same folks would then be demanding to meet god's god... and god's god's god... on and on. A bigger planet, a better planet, a planet with coconut sprinkles. On and on.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

The theory on the link sounds like the Dune concept of folding space.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't care if there's other "intelligent" life, I just want to find other life forms. Hopefully ones that show completely different evolutionary paths.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

7 billion is too many.

If warp drive helps us to find another inhabitable planet, preferably populated by green animal women who are lusting for men like on Star Trek: The Cage, I'm all for it.


The theory on the link sounds like the Dune concept of folding space.


No, folding space is an older scientific theory that predates the publication of Dune by about fifty years or so. It was arrived at by a scientist, whose name I forget, working on a tangent to Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. Most recently the theory was reiterated in Interstellar (2014) and now everybody thinks Christopher Nolan invented it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Most recently the theory was reiterated in Interstellar (2014) and now everybody thinks Christopher Nolan invented it.

That's one of the reasons I avoid looking at film-oriented message boards. The ignorance is staggering, but they can type it so it must be true.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2015 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)


BTW, for you alien invasion fans out there think of this - any alien species with the technology to get here and take over would be so advanced that they simply wouldn't need to. They'd already have everything. Logic 101.

Unless of course Roger Corman et al were right and the spacemen really DO want our women. wink


Or if their religion says they should convert all capable life forms to it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2015 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/04/nasa-may-have-accidentally-developed-a-warp-drive/


To bolster the reader's confidence in the accuracy of this story, here's some "related" articles on the same page:

-Are Zombie Crabs Causing a South Carolina Apocalypse?
-Academia Vs Paranormal Researchers: Graduate Degrees Do Not Make Experts
-The Tick That Turns Carnivores Into Herbivores

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2015 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I was extremely disappointed the Large Hadron Collider didn't create that gigantic black hole some feared and sucked the Earth and all of us down into it.

BTW the Hadron Collider does create mini black holes but for a split second, because there's not enough energy at that tiny scale to hold it together.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2015 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I get this feeling that somewhere, out there, Dan Brown is ferociously typing away on his laptop with the fixed gaze and furrowed brow of new inspiration.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2015 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I get this feeling that somewhere, out there, Dan Brown is ferociously typing away on his laptop with the fixed gaze and furrowed brow of new inspiration.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play mmakes Jack a dull boy.
All work and no Play ma es Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

 
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