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 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Concerning the original STAR TREK II THE WRATH OF KHAN LP SOUNDTRACK Release.

Always felt this was totally rude to the composer.

Here they obviously felt that you knowing it was a "Digital Recording" was far more important than letting you know that James Horner composed the great score.

Was the reason Horner's name was left off, possibly that the producers of the album figured since James Horner was a relative unknown at the time and people simply adored the STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE Soundtrack score (which was a Top Seller), that by "not advertising" Goldsmith composed STAR TREK II, people would figure he did and just buy the album assuming it was done by Jerry? Sounds kind of convoluted, but it could be very true.

Do you know of any other instances where the composer was not credited on the Front Cover of a Soundtrack LP or CD?

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Team America has no composer credit at all.
Except for the Marc Shaiman's credit in the credit block on the back cover.


There is no composer listed anywhere on the Atlas Shrugged 2 packaging.
FYI it's Chris Bacon.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Like when Horner doesn't credit Prokofiev?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Has anyone in an interview had the guts to simply say to and ask Horner,

"You reused Prokofiev's music from ROMEO AND JULIET in STAR TREK III and Prokofiev's IVAN THE TERRIBLE in GLORY. How do you feel about using other composer's music in your scores?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAH5fri_a0

Wonder what his answer would be?

Is it okay when a composer is long dead and buried, to use their music and give them no credit? Albeit I simply love how Horner used IVAN THE TERRIBLE in GLORY and expanded on it brilliantly to work in the film so wonderfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4u4GXwIBFg

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I think the FSM magazine might have had a ballsy interviewer capable of dropping the hammer on ol' Jamie once upon a time. It would contrast the more PR-type piece that used to appear towards the front of the magazine. Remember that?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

FSM almost never credited the composer on their covers. The composers name was almost always on the side portion of their tray cards. So there!

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Like when Horner doesn't credit Prokofiev?

Trouble maker!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Wonder how composers feel when their name is not on the front cover of Soundtrack Release?

I'd love to ask a group of composers that question. Does it matter? Of course it's nice to recognized and given credit where credit is due.

If you were a composer, would you want your name on the front of the album and if you used other dead composers music in your score, would you insist on a credit that read "Some music inspired by and re-orchestrated from ... example "Some music from the track Kirk Bitch Slaps Spock inspired by Prokofiev's PETER AND THE WOLF"?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

did zooba ever see this previous thread on the same subject?

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=103691&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

did zooba ever see this previous thread on the same subject?

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=103691&forumID=1&archive=0


Never saw it, but thanks for including it here to further the discussion.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

And then there's the complete opposite where they used famous past composer credits to help sell the album. Johnny even got his name above the name of the Movie!

I remember my Original THE FURY LP with it's Front Cover sticker reading:

"MORE BRILLIANT MUSIC FROM THE COMPOSER OF STAR WARS AND CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

The great Alfred Newman got his name above the title of the movie on this one!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

They certainly got the "brilliant" part right... that score IS BRILLIANT!

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2015 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Offhand, I can think of two others, both (probably coincidentally) Terry Gilliam films: The Adventures of Baron Munchausen does not list Michael Kamen on the cover, and The Fisher King does not mention George Fenton.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2015 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Then there's the original Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome album (no mention of Maurice Jarre on the cover).

On the other hand, compare the original album for The Italian Job:



And the CD reissue:



(I've complained about the latter not mentioning Quincy Jones in the liner notes before, so I won't rant again here.)

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 8:26 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Unthinkable now, but the FRAILTY soundtrack cover features not a mention of Brian Tyler.

And of course, there's Grusin's THE BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

The original cover of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" not only didn't credit the composer, but also failed to show the name of the film.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

On the other hand, compare the original album for The Italian Job

And what a fine and fun score it is.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

The Adventures of Baron Munchausen does not list Michael Kamen on the cover, and The Fisher King does not mention George Fenton.

Both inexcusable, but especially the Masterpiece that is Baron, but especially The Fisher King, but especially the Masterpiece that is Baron....

 
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