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 Posted:   May 3, 2015 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

"Exodus", "King of Kings", "El Cid", "Spartacus", "To Kill A Mockingbird", "Mutiny on the Bounty", "Summer and Smoke", "Breakfast at Tiffany's", "55 Days at Peking", "Cleopatra", "How the West Was Won", et.al.

This.
Along with THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN.

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2015 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

When I saw The Magnificent Seven and Morricone’s Dollar Trilogy, and I was hooked. I wanted those LPs. When I saw the movie Stagecoach scored by Jerry Goldsmith, I want more of his scores. And thus my journey began.

We've noted before we seem separated at birth when it comes to influences and taste, Joan. This describes my journey perfectly.

Yep, my brother got me started. We both were infected. He hates buying me presents (girlie stuff), so he loves it when I ask him to buy me film scores. Also, our tastes are almost identical. We still call each other when we see a movie to tell each other if the movie has a great score.

That's sweet. I wish I had been able to get my brother or sister interested in film scores. Despite my best efforts. they remain only marginally interested and view me as having an unhealthy obsession. At least they know who Goldsmith and Morricone are, so all was not in vain.

I made up for it by getting married to another soundtrack fan with almost identical taste, though!

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2015 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Nice, Ray, that you married someone who loves similar scores. Yep, I can still share my passion with my brother, but my husband it pretty tone deaf.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2021 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Just bumped the similar thread about Golden Age scores, so had to bump this one as well.

In case anyone in the intervening six years would like to step forward....

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2021 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

The same that I wrote for golden age... Melody that sticks in your head after you have heard it and tracks (cues) that last longer than 2 or 3 minutes.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2021 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

My formative big-screen experience was my parents taking us to see The Poseidon Adventure in 1972. The main and end titles, and every interior reference to the theme, completely enthralled me. From there on, I started paying attention to the music in movies.

The only big-screen music I remember before that was seeing Goldfinger and Dr. No in a double-feature at the drive-in. I was four or five years old at the time, so I slept through most of Dr. No, which played second. But I remember the theme song from Goldfinger was electrifying.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2021 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

The first score I remember noticing in the theatre was MR. HOBBS TAKES A VACATION. I spent a couple summers with my grandparents when I was 9–10. My grandfather owned a small movie theatre in Iowa and of course I got in for free and could eat all the popcorn I wanted. I must have seen this film 10 times. That main title theme became an earworm. I didn't pay attention to who the composer was. But from then on I paid attention to the music. And of course I now have the score CD.

Later that summer LOLITA played. Incredibly I was allowed to see it. I was too young to understand everything but I sure remembered the "Lolita ya ya" music. And Sue Lyon.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2021 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Taken to see John Barry You Only Live Twice from there on and all subsequent Bonds. And when finally saw Goldfinger what a revelation.

Jerry Goldsmith Planet of and Escape from the Planet of The Apes on TV. Taken to see In Like Flint, and Capricorn One. Bought sight unseen ST TMP.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2021 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Star Wars, Superman, Bond - those films imprinted on my 8-year old life to seek out the scores which then made me seek out more scores and made me fall in love with this art form.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2021 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

For me the "SILVER AGE "Scores are just more versatile.
Much more variety and grooviness as well...also way more innovation.

Nevertheless I also like the GOLDEN AGE ...but I prefer more the silver ones.
Even though I still consider SPARTACUS the greatest score ever written.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2021 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I was just turning into a teenager when From Russia With Love, Goldfinger and Thunderball hit, so that was a game changer. The Beatles had just come to America, but Barry's music seemed more adult, more sinister, more cool, and even sexier. Plus, seeing these films in theaters with spectacular color added to the experience. Black and white TV westerns, my primary form of media entertainment up to this point, slipped down the scale considerably.

My interest grew from there to other spy scores, and as already mentioned, the Great Movie Sounds of John Barry was an eye opener. There he was, on the cover, photos, and information on the back. Suddenly, he became somebody more than just a name on soundtrack covers.

Plus, in general, I think each teenage generation gravitates towards things that are new and not part of your parents' world. My mom had some Mancini albums, which I later came to enjoy, but the Barry/Bond stuff seemed very new and exciting.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2021 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Ooh, I'm so excited that we've got more people spilling their stories on this thread and the companion Golden Age thread.

However, I notice that the Silver Age thread has fewer posts and views than GA - I thought Silver Age did better with fans these days. where IS everybody? wink

Frankly reposted this in honor of The Eiger Sanction. It must have been about my tenth Williams score, after Jaws & Star Wars & Close Encounters & The Fury & Jaws 2 & Superman & Dracula & 1942 & Empire. I distinctly remember buying it as a cutout 8-track tape around 1980 - I mean it was a score for a Clint Eastwood film, what did I care (or know)!?

I've been spending more time with the Intrada since it arrived than anything I've added in the last couple of years. Talk about a Silver Age classic.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2021 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

It's pretty hard to delineate because the beginning love of film music was an all-encompassing thing that spanned multiple scores.

But certain scores stood out to me, and I think what defines the 60's orchestral music is that it's really having a lot of FUN. It seems more self-aware than the Golden Age scores and so any datedness is offset by its generally jovial approach:

From Russia With Love - Exciting and highly creative music - in particular Barry's stuff for the train moving was very creative - old-fashioned on the one hand but it had an edge of modernism and danger that made it so captivating to listen and watch. At the same time you could laugh at the cheesy end title song sung by Matt Munro.

Goldfinger - Ridiculously bold and over-the-top, this score is having complete fun and so is the movie. Unlike so many of the "spy" music copycats that followed and overdid the bongos and brass sections to the point of cheese, this was legitimate big-band-style orchestral music that invited you along for the ride and the main title was clearly pure joy for the songwriters.

Jason And The Argonauts - Over-the-top and theatrical to match the out-of-date performances, this is also music that is having fun with the material. How Herrmann chooses his instrumentation to match all the scenes is part of the fun and while part of you laughs at the obvious matching of registers to the size of the monsters on-screen, it's wonderfully complementary to Harryhausen's knockout effects.

The exception:

Lawrence of Arabia - A sweeping theme that simultaneously draws you into the romance of the story while also connecting to its melancholy character struggle. Spielberg talks about having been knocked out emotionally by the film and I think a large part of it is the music - it pulls you into the theatrical scope of the film, much like Lawrence, and by the end it has hollowed you out as it did for Lawrence - his theatrical playing met the harsh realities of politics and war and he didn't quite make it out unscathed.

A classical & modern masterpiece:

Star Wars - Totally mind-blowing in its simultaneously old-fashioned AND modern boldness. From beginning to end the music tells a story even by itself and hits every emotional beat. The "force theme" and instrumentation tap into this wonderfully primeval sense of yearning beyond the physical and spiritual horizon that etches itself into your brain.

The Empire Strikes Back - It has wonderful moments of the most creative action writing you'll ever hear ("Battle of Hoth", "Asteroid Chase", "Escape To Hyperspace") while the ever-trusty "force theme" is woven into that same classical-yet-modern tapestry (thanks to some superb sequences of atonality) that further tap into that unexplainable sense of a mystical/spiritual plane that we feel when we think of history past and the stars overhead.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Jurassic Park, I liked your comments regarding the early Bond scores, but I'll add that Barry's approach also didn't overdo it with electric guitars (reserving that for the Bond theme), cheesy organs, and other 60s pop elements, like so many other spy scores. He clearly was thinking dramatically and using the tools he was comfortable with. He wasn't thinking he had to reach the youth market. That's one of the reasons they have aged so well.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2021 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

while at the age of 9 I fell in love with Day the Earth Stood Still and LP technology was new (I had albums of 78 RPM records) it was Close Encounters that got me into collecting film scores.

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2021 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I still think it is interesting that this thread has 25% fewer posts than the analogous Golden Age thread, even though scores in this period are more recent and seem to still be good sellers when released.

I mean just the past few months we've had Somewhere in Time, Time Tunnel 2, The Eiger Sanction, Shamus, Caboblanco, Rio Conchos - just for starters.

Of course, even just that selection is quite a bit more diverse from score to score than any random set of Golden Age scores, which were generally more consistent in their approach.

So it may just be the ongoing variety (or lack of definition) of what constitutes a Silver Age score.

Or maybe what motivates people here to add to a thread like this - maybe the Golden Age thread is more appealing to more people.

Whatever, I'm still fascinated.

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2021 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Col. Flagg   (Member)

I didn't have to fall in love with the Silver Age: it was already plastered on everything I watched on TV and at the movies. It really was "my" music from the start.

You'd see STAR WARS on Saturday afternoon and then, on Sunday night, an early James Bond film would show up on TV. Early and mid-to-late Silver Age always co-existed for me. Little did I know this happenstance would influence the range of my musical interests, allowing me to explore Golden Age genius and Bronze Age madness and still respect the intention of the best works because of – rather than in spite of – their stylistic differences. To say nothing of the British, French, Italian, Spanish and Japanese artists that contribute to my eclectic Silver Age playlists to this day.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2021 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


who started it for you?


Dominic Frontiere.

When I had started to watch re-runs of THE OUTER LIMITS on my local UHF channel at the age of 12, I received my earliest exposure to dissonance and 'modern' music with Frontiere's stings, his somewhat nebulous end credits sequence (which to my young mind did not follow the A-B-A patterns of song melodies) and his episode scores.

Around this time, I was also intrigued by the music I heard whilst watching THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES. It wasn't until later onwards that I learnt that Stanley Myers wrote the music for this TV mini-series, so I'm unable to state that Myers was a known quantity to me at that time as Frontiere was.

While I had seen movies in theaters during the '70s as a youngster, I was not yet receptive towards their music scores. I think the repetition of music within episodic television shows was a more significant factor in my remembrances of them.
One of the programs picked-up by AIP for television syndication in the '70s was the Japanese Giant Robot - which was dubbed into English and rechristened as Johnny Sokko & his flying Robot - and the music heard in this show might well be the earliest to imbed into my subconscious. Found out much later - in 2019, actually - that it was Takeo Yamashita who did the music for this. It must have been between '75 & '77 when I saw this at around ages 8 & 9.

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2021 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

"What made you fall in love with Silver Age scores? "

I didn't.


So you have bad taste for music.

What else is news.

 
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