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 Posted:   May 8, 2015 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I've been wondering about a couple of things regarding the album/cd release of the score, as well as the film itself. I had the original soundtrack album back in the 70's and then got the DRG CD around 2008, I think the music was the same in both. I'm wondering if anyone knows how much music may be in the film that was not released on the album? Which brings me to my second question: The running length of the film? I had the dvd of the film which was lost in a move many years ago, and the dvd is no longer in print. Looking at The Amazon website, some reviewers of the dvd that is available (one copy, way to expensive), say the film originally ran 4 hours. I've never seen that version. Wondering if any of the major labels might re-release this with more music (if there is indeed more).
Personally, 'The Paris Waltz' that Mr. Jarre wrote for the film is my favorite Jarre composition for film.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2015 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I always loved the film and score. Most underrated jarre.
Remember thinking the film - as it progresses and gathers pace - becomes wall to wall music.
It always felt like there was more music in the film than on the score.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2015 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

I'm certain there's a lot more music. Mr. Jarre edited together an LP friendly presentation for the soundtrack album.

They also really need to re-issue this movie on DVD without the horrible English dubbing of the French and German actors.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2015 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I'm not aware of any 4-hour version of IS PARIS BURNING? being theatrically shown. The film that opened in Paris in October 1966 in 70mm under the title Paris brûle-t-il?, and the version that opened in New York on 10 November 1966 ran 173 min. That is the version that was released in the U.S. on laserdisc and DVD. However, subsequent cuts to the film resulted in a version that ran 136 minutes. This was primarily accomplished by the omission of all of E. G. Marshall's scenes. Reportedly, the film received its U.S. copyright at the 136-minute length.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

There's plenty of music in the film that isn't on the album, notably all the opening music, and the barbaric ostinato-based title sequence, very fine, but the album is representative since there's repetition. 'One of his best scores for sure.


I have an old DVD that is 161 minutes long, presumably including Overture and Entr'Acte, both present.


The poor film gets endless abuse from critics, but I feel they misinterpret the premises, the deliberately semi-documentary style etc.. It must have been a fun production to work on. I agree that a proper French dialogue track is better in this case than the ADR.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I am up for this being his very best score. I remember seeing this in 70MM at the Hollywood Stanley Warner Theater and buying the program to read how Jarre lived through this period as a kid, which is why it was so meaningful to him. Imagine finding out later that someone had dynamite in place to blow up the city you lived in! Great score.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

There's plenty of music in the film that isn't on the album, notably all the opening music, and the barbaric ostinato-based title sequence, very fine, but the album is representative since there's repetition. 'One of his best scores for sure.


I have an old DVD that is 161 minutes long, presumably including Overture and Entr'Acte, both present.


The poor film gets endless abuse from critics, but I feel they misinterpret the premises, the deliberately semi-documentary style etc.. It must have been a fun production to work on. I agree that a proper French dialogue track is better in this case than the ADR, but mine doesn't have that option!


I know exactly how much music there was because I have all of Maurice's original scores.....

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)


I know exactly how much music there was because I have all of Maurice's original scores.....




James ... is that a teaser ....?


Yippee if it is ...

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

To merely say those were placed in good hands, would be a huge understatement.

Glad to hear this!

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Paris is a score release i would sell my wife and put the kids on the street for.

"open up - its the red cross!!"

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Paris is a score release i would sell my wife and put the kids on the street for.

"open up - its the red cross!!"



You've got your priorities right, then, Bill (??)

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)


Personally, 'The Paris Waltz' that Mr. Jarre wrote for the film is my favorite Jarre composition for film.


I agree. I love that nostalgic Parisian music. I listen to it and instantly I'm in Paris in the early 1960s - when I first visited that beautiful city.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I always preferred the resistence march as the action builds during the second half of the film. Glorious. Especially the drumming.

I think its just a few grand pianos and a second accordion away from beating Aurans.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I always preferred the resistence march as the action builds during the second half of the film. Glorious.

I think its just a few grand pianos and a second accordion away from beating Aurans.



Jarre blows hot and cold for me, but when he's good (this film, Grand Prix, one or two others) he's near perfect.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2015 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)


I know exactly how much music there was because I have all of Maurice's original scores.....




James ... is that a teaser ....?


Yippee if it is ...


I'll second that as 'Paris' is my 2nd favorite Jarre score after Lawrence.

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2015 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

...and here I thought there was little love for this score, other than myself! The comments, and comments from one particular gentleman, offer the lovers of this score some genuine..hope! Thanks!

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2015 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I only have music from the Jarre box set released several years ago, but when I was a kid we had an 8-track with a collection of movie themes done by Enoch Light and the Light Brigade, so this was one of the first movie themes (along with the love theme from The Blue Max, the theme from Khartoum and Patton) I listened to.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2015 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I have this DVD:



It's the official Paramount DVD, and the only legit release in the US as far as I know.

It runs 172 mins, according to the packaging. That's actually a bit deceptive though. The video feature film runs 168 mins. The Overture, bewilderingly, is a bonus audio feature, where you start it, and it plays over a static screen of the film's logo for 4 minutes. When the audio finishes, the disc automatically skips to the video feature film.

Luckily, the Paramount disc contains both the original French audio track (mono) and the English dub (5.1).

I would presume the German actors recorded their dialogue in German for the film's release there, but I don't know for sure, there's no German DVD available it seems.

The ideal version of the film would have all scenes in their original languages, but I don't think that exists. At least with the Paramount DVD, you can watch all the French scenes in French, and switch to English for the handful of scenes involving the American actors.

It's the same thing I do with my Paramount DVD of Polanski's THE TENANT, which has both French and English audio tracks. The majority of that film - all the Isabelle Adjani scenes - were filmed in French and are poorly dubbed in the English version, but a lot of scenes have American character actors and were shot in English. I switch back and forth every time the native language changes, so there's no dubbing.

This would seem like a great title for Criterion. Major French director, major screenwriters (Coppola and Gore Vidal) poor DVD representation, and Paramount, which they have a relationship with.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2015 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I tried that, switching audio language. Then i forgot i dont speak French and i lost the plot of the film!!

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2015 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I tried that, switching audio language. Then i forgot i dont speak French and i lost the plot of the film!!

The Paramount DVD has English subtitlessmile Switch them on for the French scenes. Be aware though that they're not exact translations of the French dialogue. Instead, they're hard-of-hearing subtitles of the English dubbed dialogue, which had to be written in lines just the right length to fit the French lip movements, it seems.

 
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