I am not a fan of rerecordings in general but you may want to seriously reconsider ruling out the Tribute Film Classics edition. Sure glad I had/have an open mind!
What's the best and most recommended edition of the original score?
Not interested in the rerecording, thanks anyhow.
From what I see listed the released CD's are tragically incomplete.
If you want a ten or fifteen-minute suite, they're all okay. But, for someone who isn't "interested" in the rerecording, they're ALL rerecordings. So, why NOT get the complete rerecording instead of a woefully short suite? Me no understand.
I'm with Bruce; the question doesn't really make much sense. The Tribute recording is fantastic, and it is the only edition of the score that is complete (it also contains the score from the Twilight Zone episode “Walking Distance.”).
Otherwise, you're just going to have Herrmann recordings he arranged in the 70s for London, and the McNeely suite, which I think is is slightly longer, but still nowhere near the complete score… and that's it.
EDIT: I had forgotten the suite on the Essa-Pekka Salonen album.
The act of creation is a unique thing. There is something about the energy and the feel of an original recording, as heard in the film itself, which is special, and which can't be duplicated. That's all I know.
I gather there was no original soundtrack LP? the original tapes are lost or destroyed then?
The "new" Tribute recording is actually better than the film tracks, and it has more music, from unused sequences.
Previous to that, my favorite suite from it is on the Herrmann-conducted "Fantasy Film World of Bernard Herrmann," which was released on lp in the summer of 1974, and which has long been available on CD.
This has the best "The Road" and "Finale" sequence, to my taste. Originally, in the film, they're two separate cues, with dialogue between, but Herrmann combines them on this recording into one continuous, transcendant piece.
This cue is one of my Top Ten Favorite Cues ever from film music, and certainly ranks in the Top Three.
The "new" Tribute recording is actually better than the film tracks, and it has more music, from unused sequences.
Previous to that, my favorite suite from it is on the Herrmann-conducted "Fantasy Film World of Bernard Herrmann," which was released on lp in the summer of 1974, and which has long been available on CD.
This has the best "The Road" and "Finale" sequence, to my taste. Originally, in the film, they're two separate cues, with dialogue between, but Herrmann combines them on this recording into one continuous, transcendant piece.
This cue is one of my Top Ten Favorite Cues ever from film music, and certainly ranks in the Top Three.
Sublime music!
This is an outstanding recording of the score that came out some years ago with Esa-Pekka Salonen conducting the Los Angeles Philharmonic...
The Entire album is wonderful, but the recording of the complete suite is the highlight for me.
What's the best and most recommended edition of the original score?
Not interested in the rerecording, thanks anyhow.
assuming you're referring to the two boots (which I believe are original recordings), one does wonder where the tape sources are. Hopefully someone can comment on their whereabouts. Aside from that, the Tribute rerecording is amazingly faithful to the original recording. Has the same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration, and is worth getting just to hear how exacting it is.
.... Aside from that, the Tribute rerecording is amazingly faithful to the original recording. Has the same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration, and is worth getting just to hear how exacting it is.
The same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration. Okay. That's a good start.
Was it recorded on analog tape with old microphones?
Someone told me that the rerecording of THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES was exacting but when I bought it and listened it was nothing of the kind.
.... Aside from that, the Tribute rerecording is amazingly faithful to the original recording. Has the same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration, and is worth getting just to hear how exacting it is.
The same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration. Okay. That's a good start.
Was it recorded on analog tape with old microphones?
Someone told me that the rerecording of THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES was exacting but when I bought it and listened it was nothing of the kind.
I don't understand. Are any of the original tracks available in legitimate form?
I own the Tribute (magnificient), the London Phase 4 suite (magnificient), the Bernstein recorded cues (great, save for a minor detail) and the Salonen suite (equally wonderful). If had my way, the work would be constantly perfromed by orchestras around the globe. The music is that good and timeless (and the Tribute is as close as definite as we are likely to get).
The "new" Tribute recording is actually better than the film tracks, and it has more music, from unused sequences.
Previous to that, my favorite suite from it is on the Herrmann-conducted "Fantasy Film World of Bernard Herrmann," which was released on lp in the summer of 1974, and which has long been available on CD.
This has the best "The Road" and "Finale" sequence, to my taste. Originally, in the film, they're two separate cues, with dialogue between, but Herrmann combines them on this recording into one continuous, transcendant piece.
This cue is one of my Top Ten Favorite Cues ever from film music, and certainly ranks in the Top Three.
Sublime music! Tricky to find Fantasy Film World of Bernard Hermann on iTunes as it just says Film Fantasy Gala NPO at first glance but here's the link Film Fantasy - Cinema Gala by National Philharmonic Orchestra & Bernard Herrmann https://itun.es/us/iGNkA
.... Aside from that, the Tribute rerecording is amazingly faithful to the original recording. Has the same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration, and is worth getting just to hear how exacting it is.
The same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration. Okay. That's a good start.
Was it recorded on analog tape with old microphones?
Someone told me that the rerecording of THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES was exacting but when I bought it and listened it was nothing of the kind.
I don't understand. Are any of the original tracks available in legitimate form?
I own the Tribute (magnificient), the London Phase 4 suite (magnificient), the Bernstein recorded cues (great, save for a minor detail) and the Salonen suite (equally wonderful). If had my way, the work would be constantly perfromed by orchestras around the globe. The music is that good and timeless (and the Tribute is as close as definite as we are likely to get).
Bernstein Hermann has some weirdness on iTunes. One version missing a track Bernard Herrman Film Scores by Bernard Herrmann https://itun.es/us/jIiGk
All tracks Bernard Hermann Film Scores: From Citizen Kane to Taxi Driver by Elmer Bernstein https://itun.es/us/p9IIe
BTW: Has there ever been some notice of the fact that, due to its plot of books being banned, all the opening credits of FAHRENHEIT 451 are spoken, while, at the end, when people are finally preserving books, the title, "The End," is actually shown on the screen.
Also, in an interview I read with director Francois Truffaut, he said that snowfall was unexpected but entirely welcome. It really adds a lustrous quality to the finale of the film.
.... Aside from that, the Tribute rerecording is amazingly faithful to the original recording. Has the same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration, and is worth getting just to hear how exacting it is.
The same manic-depressive intensity and orchestration. Okay. That's a good start.
Was it recorded on analog tape with old microphones?
Someone told me that the rerecording of THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES was exacting but when I bought it and listened it was nothing of the kind.
I've never done a side-by-side comparison of the Tribute cd with the movie, although it would be interesting to do. I have the two boots which I used to play alot. Playing them and the Tribute successively, you can notice some subtle differences in the performance, but I was very impressed. I never said you should give up pursuing the ost, or that the Tribute was more than a recreation, although I'm sure you could recreate a faux analog effect with a wave editor if you want the pops or crackle.
The pertinent question is where are the complete original tapes? Or at least whatever was used in the boots. And why no legit release?
The "new" Tribute recording is actually better than the film tracks, and it has more music, from unused sequences.
Previous to that, my favorite suite from it is on the Herrmann-conducted "Fantasy Film World of Bernard Herrmann," which was released on lp in the summer of 1974, and which has long been available on CD.
This has the best "The Road" and "Finale" sequence, to my taste. Originally, in the film, they're two separate cues, with dialogue between, but Herrmann combines them on this recording into one continuous, transcendant piece.
This cue is one of my Top Ten Favorite Cues ever from film music, and certainly ranks in the Top Three.
Sublime music!
This is an outstanding recording of the score that came out some years ago with Esa-Pekka Salonen conducting the Los Angeles Philharmonic...
The Entire album is wonderful, but the recording of the complete suite is the highlight for me.
Here are two excepts from it:
The Bedroom
Finale
Yes I agree totally. I love the Tribute recording for its comprehensive and faithful rendering of the score but the Salonen will always be my favorite since this was the first time I heard Herrmann's score and it entranced me. Salonen treated this like a concert piece much like he would approach Mahler. Beautiful with a tinge of pathos
I gather there was no original soundtrack LP? the original tapes are lost or destroyed then?
That's right, there was never a soundtrack LP on this title during or after the film's distribution.
The original studio recording elements are not missing; these tapes did surface onto a Soundstage unmentionable (http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/8494/Fahrenheit+451) but we don't wish the thread to be closed by reason of bootleg discussions.
