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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: Seascapes in film music?    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3       Last Post   Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 11:53 AM     By:   John-73   (Member) Treasure Island - Clifton Parker.    Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 12:10 PM     By:   The Thing   (Member) To me, the word "seascape" would make me close my eyes, and imagine the vast expanse of the ocean, the emptiness, the crashing waves... Tranquil, relaxing, mood music.    Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 12:11 PM     By:   bobbengan   (Member) Lee Holdridge's The Great Whales. Someone needa hurry dur ass up 'n release dis shit!    Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 1:51 PM     By:   scottthompson   (Member) Ron Goodwin's DRAKE 400 Suite should fit your bill very nicely! SCOTT    Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 1:58 PM     By:   jkrukones   (Member) Waxman's "Beloved Infidel" has some lovely music evocative of the sea, including the main titles.    Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 11:00 AM     By:   Rozsaphile   (Member) Since STAR TREK's "voyages" and "captain" and "bridge" suggest a naval metaphor, it's not surprising to find a few mentions of "seascape" here. The one that springs to my mind is the Herrmannesque undulating passage for exploring the giant "cloud" in the first movie.    Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 11:15 AM     By:   Rozsaphile   (Member) We may quibble about the definition, and I realize that the original writer was simply describing the kind of thing he enjoys. But think about it, Folks. Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as a "seascape" in music. It's not a musical term at all. It's been borrowed from the visual arts to describe music that may have been associated with the ocean in some medium or other and may suggest water or waves to some listeners. Given the infinite variety of music and hearers, there's no limit to what some composer or filmmaker or movie fan might find appropriate for some marine medium. What's striking here is the virtually complete absence of any musical description of what a "seascape" might include. I suspect that everybody has unconsciously absorbed the sound of Debussy's classic and taken it as definitive: repetitive, undulating patterns to suggest waves, lots of harps and arpeggiated chords, brush cymbals to suggest the spray of surf, etc. Those are effective and time-honored tactics. They have worked for countless composers. But there's nothing to say that another man's "seascape" might sound entirely different.    Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 1:58 PM     By:   John McMasters   (Member) I just wanted to add that vocal music in the form of "Sea Chanties" has often been used in film to great effect to evoke the experience of going away and being at-sea. English composer, Percy Grainger, composed a masterpiece, “Shallow Brown – Sailor’s Sea-Chanty”, for voice and choir. Grainger described it, “My setting aims to convey a suggestion of wafted, wind-borne, surging sounds heard at sea.” Here is the composer Gavin Bryars on the Grainger work: http://www.gavinbryars.com/work/writing/articles/percy-grainger-shallow-brown Here is a gorgeous version sung by John Shirley-Quirk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL5G9C59Iao    Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 3:08 PM     By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member) They're more commonly called 'shanties'. I suppose we should include Vaughan-Williams' 'Sea Symphony' in the choral category.    Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 3:34 PM     By:   John McMasters   (Member) Thanks for your note. I used the spelling "chanty" because that's what Grainger used. See this article from his manuscript archive at the University of Rochester: http://www.lib.rochester.edu/index.cfm?PAGE=2473 I actually prefer "chanty" because it hints at the chant quality of many of the songs so characterized. "Shanty" does reflect more accurately how the word is pronounced -- and as you note it is the usual spelling. Ah, the sweetness of life's choices.    Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 4:03 PM     By:   James Corry   (Member) Bernard Herrmann's main-title music to: 1. "Mysterious Island" and: 2. "Endless Night" J.    Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 8:12 PM     By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member) Thanks for your note. I used the spelling "chanty" because that's what Grainger used. See this article from his manuscript archive at the University of Rochester: I actually prefer "chanty" because it hints at the chant quality of many of the songs so characterized. "Shanty" does reflect more accurately how the word is pronounced -- and as you note it is the usual spelling. Ah, the sweetness of life's choices. Shanty or chanty, Alfred Newman's DOWN TO THE SEA IN SHIPS (1949) starts with a rouser, and rest of the score fits the bill here as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpooO6mK7g    Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 8:37 PM     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member) Swiss Family Robinson was great but written by William Alwyn (who also did the thrilling Crimson Pirate), not Clifton Parker. Parker *did* compose wonderful sea music for Disney's Treasure Island though, as well as Damn the Defiant and others... Yavar    Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 10:55 PM     By:   RM Eastman   (Member) Two Masterworks I love that involve the Sea: Jerry Goldsmith- "PAPILLON" Roders/Bennett- "VICTORY AT SEA"    Posted:   Jun 5, 2015 - 11:51 AM     By:   leslie   (Member) Frank Skinner provided a fine score for Universal's " The World in his Arms " with a splendid shanty flavoured main theme used to memorable effect in an exciting sea race between the ships of Gregory Peck and Anthony Quinn. For Elmer Bernstein,apart from " The Bucanneer, " it's worth remembering his two National Geographic / David Wolper 'Brigatine Yankee' television specials plus his atmospheric ' undersea ' scoring for two Cousteau tv segments. We also have his early " The Eternal Sea " assignment. Waxman has " Botany Bay ", " Anne of the Indies " and " Captains Courageous, " while from Tiomkin we have " The Old Man and the Sea. " In terms of British composers, a little of Malcolm Arnold's music from both " The Heroes of Telemark " and " The Inspector " is of relevance.     General Discussion: Seascapes in film music?    << < 1 2 3  >   Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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