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 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

After Dot Records had issued the Elmer Bernstein scores for THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (DLP 3054) and DESIRE UNDER THE ELMS (DLP 3095), he was contracted to produce some albums of movie themes for the label. The first was entitled “Love Scene: Elmer Bernstein Conducts Music from the Great Romantic Films” (DLP 3097 / 1958).



Until Film Score Monthly’s 2001 CD release of the original soundtrack, this LP contained the only available music from Bernstein’s THE VIEW FROM POMPEY’S HEAD.

The second album was the better known “Backgrounds for Brando” (DLP 3107 / 1958).



Both of the 1958 albums were originally released only in mono. But stereo versions were added to the catalog in 1959. In 1961, Dot Records combined tracks from both of these LPs into a compilation release called “Elmer Bernstein Conducts GONE WITH THE WIND and Other Great Movie Themes” (DLP 3364).



Only “Backgrounds for Brando” has been released on CD, by Blue Moon Records in Spain. Given their “gray market” nature, in addition to the 10 tracks of the original LP, Blue Moon added themes from three other Brando films, by other conductors.



Bernstein’s “Love Scene” LP has never had a CD release in either its original or abbreviated/compiled forms.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Aren't you forgetting "The Rat Race"?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Aren't you forgetting "The Rat Race"?


I suppose we could include it, even though Bernstein's name appears nowhere on the cover. The LP has score cues being played by the jazz group Sam Butera and the Witnesses.



Does anyone know how many of the LP's tracks are Bernstein compositions?

Tracklist
Hot Lips
Theme From The Rat Race Part Two
At Sundown
Lover
Out Of Nowhere
Two Sleepy People
Ja Da
Lullaby Of Birdland
That Old Black Magic
Wang Wang Blues
Manhattan
Theme From The Rat Race Part One

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Bob, nice to see those old album covers. On the Sam Butera LP, only the Theme from The Rat Race Parts 1 & 2 were based on EB's composition. The other tracks were jazz standards and the like. Not really a part of Bernstein's tenure as a recording artist for DOT Records.

More pertinent would be the two cues which were intended for inclusion on the "Love Scene" album but for some reason (lack of space, maybe?) were relegated for release on a 45-rpm single
(Dot 45-15687) comprising : "The Flaming Rose" from SPANISH AFFAIR (Mack David/Daniele Amfitheatrof) and Theme from DESIRE UNDER THE ELMS, a slightly more lush version of Bernstein's own love theme from that picture. Copies of this one turn up on eBay now and again.

"The Flaming Rose" is an up-beat arrangement of Amfitheatrof's main theme; very sprightly!

- James.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

More pertinent would be the two cues which were intended for inclusion on the "Love Scene" album but for some reason (lack of space, maybe?) were relegated for release on a 45-rpm single
(Dot 45-15687) comprising : "The Flaming Rose" from SPANISH AFFAIR (Mack David/Daniele Amfitheatrof) and Theme from DESIRE UNDER THE ELMS, a slightly more lush version of Bernstein's own love theme from that picture. Copies of this one turn up on eBay now and again.



DESIRE UNDER THE ELMS was the "A" side of the 45, while "The Flaming Rose" was the "B" side.



 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

This is not related to the DOT albums, but I sometimes wonder why Elmer Bernstein did not include additional composers within his 1970s film music series of re-recordings?

Seeing how he adapted an Amfitheatrof theme for that 45-single, why didn't Elmer record one or two Amfitheatrof film music suites on his label?

When we consider that 3 of Miklos Rozsa's scores received re-recordings in FMC, and that many other composers had gotten zero representation in that series, this offers the impression that there was (and still is) a skewered bias towards specific "A"-listers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

When we consider that 3 of Miklos Rozsa's scores received re-recordings in FMC, and that many other composers had gotten zero representation in that series, this offers the impression that there was (and still is) a skewered bias towards specific "A"-listers.


Well, I think it's more than an impression that some composers are more popular, more recorded, more associated with higher profile films, and frankly are more capable than others. My guess is that Bernstein chose composers and scores that were (1) not well represented on existing recordings, (2) had high name recognition among film music fans, and (3) would keep sales at as high a level as possible. As it turns out, even given the composers and scores that he selected (from Steiner, Waxman, Rozsa, Herrmann, Newman, North, Tiomkin, and Bernstein himself), the Film Music Collection did not prove to be financially viable. I suspect it would have died an even earlier death had it been populated with less-well-known composers and scores. Nevertheless, I have no doubt that if it had been able to continue, Bernstein would have found worthy scores from such composers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2015 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Bob beat me to the punch. Here is what I was typing for Zardoz while Bob was posting:

Be that as it may -- or may not be -- I hope we can all continue to rejoice in the glass that is half full of A-Listers as opposed to half empty of B-Listers. (And don't forget there were a few A-Listers who never made the cut, either, even though we now know they too were part of the pantheon, such as Victor Young or David Raksin.)

Especially considering what a pioneering effort this was into almost totally commercially-uncharted territory, and considering that Bernstein was putting so much of his own money as well as his life's blood into this enterprise, I find it hard to disapprove of any of his choices. In addition to which, who knows where he might have turned for future albums if the Collection had been successful enough to continue past the point of running out of gas? And starting off with A-Listers was the best possible chance the Collection might have had to succeed and keep growing. No one would have been happier than I if the Collection had recorded Salter, say, or Skinner, or Duning. But I think Bernstein played his cards exactly as he had to at that time -- and more courageously than anybody else in his position had ever attempted.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 3:04 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

By the way, I sure hope someone at Intrada is reading this thread!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

There actually WAS a release of the Dot 10C album on CD, though punters claimed that the sound was very bad. It may even have been an LP master, and I think it was what's called from a 'grey area' around here. The best vinyl pressing of that album was the Sunset re-issue.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Ditto to what was said above about the Elmer collection.

1974? Before Charles Gerhardt's first RCA Korngold album in 1972 the idea of rerecording older film scores would have been laughed off the face of the earth. In fact I don't think Williams would have done his approach to STAR WARS the way he did if that Korngold album hadn't been such a hit (the first STAR WARS teaser had more of a Kubrickian Lygeti approach).

But 2 years later Elmer Bernstein did Gerhardt one better. He conceived of each album based on a single score instead of 10 minute suites. Limited editions that were numbered, coming bi-monthly with extensive liner notes in a monthly magazine, that coincided with each release, totally about film music. And other goodies thrown in. Isn't this the basis of everything we have today? Elmer was simply ahead of his time. Had the internet been around, his club and the first Varese club would have succeeded instead of going down in flames. And to give a sense of what may have been coming from Elmer's club, just before it died their one and only soundtrack release was of Jerry Fielding's SCORPIO. Fielding a masterful but not exactly stellar name at that time.

 
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