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 Posted:   Jul 1, 2015 - 10:58 PM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

I would pick those beautiful swells of orchestral beauty like at the very end of Searching for Bobby Fischer. Or the hand wave between Mel Gibson and Nick Stahl in The Man with Two Faces.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

I love that decending trombone motif that JH used in the Aliens action cues and other scores of the eighties. I believe it also appeared in The Perfect Storm. It made an appearance 2 mins in to War from Avatar.

Also love the 8 note flute motif he used in Star Trek III (stealing the enterprise) and he used it subtly in a number if other scores.

I have absolutely no problem with the Hornerisms. Makes his music unique and that is why I love it!

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Apologies, cannot pick one.

1) rhythmic flutes (Clear and Present Danger, Braveheart, Legends of the Fall, Patriot Games, Devil's Own, Mask of Zorro)

2) echoing female synth vocal (Jade, Braveheart, Patriot Games, Red Heat, House of Cards)

3) shakuhachi (The Missing, Commando, The Mask of Zorro, Legends of the Fall, Thunderheart, Willow)

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

always liked the way he used the basic drumkit, something i'm kinda precious about, not just in scores, in all music, but Horner had a knack for dropping beats and spacing out rhythyms and keeping it interesting.
the steady driving snare-beat section in the Streets of Fire suite has long been a favorite of mine, would love to see a full release for the score he recorded.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

Some fantastic posts in here reminding me of elements I've liked in his music. Thanks connorb93 for starting this thread!


always liked the way he used the basic drumkit

When you say "basic drumkit", in the context of stuff like "48 Hrs." (or "Red Heat" or "Commando") where he had a small ensemble of known-name session players, that were experimental and/or improvisational?



Always thought the hi-hat used prominently in "Sneakers" (and CNN doing a small "Horner is scoring this film, here's Branford Marsalis, too" had a couple close-ups of it) was a nice way to use this traditionally associated drumset element in an orchestral setting.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)




always liked the way he used the basic drumkit

When you say "basic drumkit", in the context of stuff like "48 Hrs." (or "Red Heat" or "Commando") where he had a small ensemble of known-name session players, that were experimental and/or improvisational?




right, mainly those, I love the 48hrs score, the drums are centre-stage for that one, and the Intrada release really nails the sound of the whole ensemble.

also Gorky Park, where tracks like 'follwing kgb' are carried by a rugged rock beat, not many composers get away with that kind of thing in my opinion, but it always sounded tough enough and removed from any time or trend in his case.
and yeah, in milder forms like Sneakers the less exotic percussion elements remain fluid and effective,
even in Field of Dreams, in the track 'deciding to build the field', when it's at its most hokey and cleaned up (as per the material) I could mark the sound of the beats as Horner's own.

i don't know how much he continued these styles in later years, i guess i ended up watching less movies in general, and he ended up with the kind of projects i don't lean towards anyway, so i'm just not familiar enough with much of the second half of his career.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

Ah, Nyborg - I see what you mean. Yeah, "Following KGB" is a terrific track - love that percussion effect of the rattling chains throughout and all those low brass (trombone/tuba) snarls - like the one at 1:42 here that sonically has the illusion of coming out of nowhere while they're otherwise just vamping:




I think he mostly abandoned the drum set as a primary ingredient in his middle to later years scores. I think the Walter Hill breed of films with their particular levels of testosterone had him matching that musical palette but he went onto trying other things. Obviously, though, propulsive percussion itself would remain an influence, like this cue, so no shortage of musical moments for drum/percussion fans - but more "world music" percussive influences took over than conventional drum set:

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

Trekfan, the percussion in that Apocalypto track does have a similar gut-level toughness to it, and the throat singing sounds great! I'll have to take a closer look, at that and some more of his later output I think.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2015 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   WhoDat   (Member)

I love the crazy ascending crescendo which the orchestra builds to in the closing titles of Star Trek II, The Rocketeer, and Pas de Deux.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 2:54 AM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I think the only time I've truly been aggravated by the danger motif is in ENEMY OF THE GATES, simply because there's so much of it.

I'm with you on that....I was aware of the danger motif, but it never particularly bothered me, until ENEMY AT THE GATES. By about the 10th repetition it was taking me out of the movie. A shame, because it's a really good film. It was for me one the very few instances of Horner harming a film...and largely because of the overuse of that one phrase.

I should give the caveat that for the general public the film was most likely not harmed by the score...it was something only a soundtrack nerd like me (or Thor) would notice. wink

 
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