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 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

My son has recently edited the alternative take of Charging Fort Wagner from the album "The Music of James Horner" into the film Glory.

I think that it works as well, if not better than the film version.

I'd love to read your opinions on this.

Enjoy.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z0gey3jrvo7psp9/Fortwagner.mpg?dl=0

https://youtu.be/BZhKg6TnweM

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

"video is not available"

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

That's strange, if I click on the links, it works fine, I'm not sure what I can do about this problem.

I'll contact the Oracle (son).

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Trekfan   (Member)

Both links worked great for me. The content might be geo-blocked based on LeHah's geography or otherwise specific to his connection.

A nicely done exercise! Horner had talked previously about with Glory, doing some cues "his way" and some cues Zwick's way as a "backup" so there would be coverage regardless of how the music ended up playing against the sequence. A score that I will now be revisiting in my playlist this weekend.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

The YouTube link didn't work for me so I downloaded the file directly from Dropbox.

I believe I prefer this version to the film track. More somber and fitting to the overall mood of the picture. On the other hand both versions still suffer from their slavish dependence on the original source material.

Your son did fine editing job BTW. Nicely done.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

There are separate entities here,

The first part, that deals with Shaw and his 'crucifix' sacrificial pose and collapse, is I think better in this original version than in the revision, much more poignant and evocative. He could've left that intact in fact; a shame he didn't.

The rest of the piece has less development than the revision. It's too close to the Orff template of 'O Fortuna' which, it would not surprise me, might have been temp-track. The reference to that is not inappropriate as 'hommage', since we're talking about Lady Fortune, fate .... human sacrifice (See 'The Gaze of the Gorgon'). But it's just as likely to be a temp-track lift. It may not be his choice, but it's acceptable as referencing in context.

In the second main part, the revised piece has more development, with an A-B-A shape. The 'B' trio bit has a sort of lullaby quality (the original piece has no 'B'). Now that fits perfectly with Shaw's youth, the aestheticism of the period, and the strong family ties, he keeps writing to his parents, and he's trying to live up to their ideals, including the gliding lofty mother and the upright father we see in the early scenes. So the lullaby is chilling and inspiring, being lullabied into death. ('Come home bearing your shield or borne upon it', as those awful Spartans used to say.) I think Horner had the psychological chops to know he was consciously doing this, but it wasn't obviously his first idea.


So my vote is that the death music in the original is far better, though the rest of the piece is better in the revision. The revision is also further removed from the Orff piece.

It's one of my favourites of his scores.


P.S. Good edit and match to image, by the way.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2015 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Not too shabby!

 
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