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 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

FRIDAY, JULY 31

THE WALKING DEAD---AMC released new photos of Walkers from Season 6.







STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS---sources said JJ Abrams wanted to retain the original trilogy's non-CGI practical special effects, so THE FORCE AWAKENS has only 28 pure CGI shots. This includes a 100% CGI scene involving TIE fighters and Star Destroyers.





GAME OF THRONES---HBO head Michael Lombardo said the series might last eight seasons, "Seven-seasons-and-out has never been the conversation. The question is how much beyond seven are we going to do."
Lombardo said creators David Benioff and Dan Weiss are, "feeling like there's two more years after six. I would always love for them to change their minds. That's what we're looking at right now."
He commented on a prequel, "I would always be open to anything Dan and David want to do. It really would depend fully on what they want to do. I think you're right, there's enormous storytelling to be mined in a prequel. We haven't had any conversations."

JONNY QUEST---Robert Rodriguez (SIN CITY) commented on his live-action movie based on the ABC animated series, "I'm turning in the script right now...I love Jonny Quest. The originals are so cool. They were really ahead of their time. I grew up with them because they used to play in syndication, and my kids still love them.
They're action-packed. That was an action cartoon. They had to cancel it after the first season because they couldn't keep up with it. The amount of drawings was like four times the amount of drawings. It was an adventure. Before Indiana Jones, it was an Indiana Jones/James Bond action-adventure strip with a kid in it. It just happened to have a kid. It wasn't a kid's story. It was an action-adventure story that had a kid in it." He said the movie will have a PG or PG-13 rating.





BATMAN v SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE---sources claim Jena Malone will play Barbara Gordon in the sequel.

SPIDER-MAN---co-writer Jonathan Goldstein said the reboot movie won't be an origin movie, "I think that everybody feels like you know he got bit by a spider and you know Uncle Ben died, and we probably don't need to revisit that."

TRON ASCENSION---Bruce Boxleitner commented on Walt Disney Pictures' decision to drop plans for another sequel, "I'm done with it. I've moved on. I hate to say that but it's been too up and down for me. I would rather not just keep going. I don't want to repeat my career anymore. That'd be like, 'Let's reboot SCARECROW AND MRS KING.' No, I'm not interested. Or BABYLON 5.
[I was] very much surprised [by the cancellation]. Not that I was privy to anything, but once in a while I got little snippets of information... I don't think they [Disney] really want it anymore. I think they've got Star Wars. They've got Marvel. Legacy was successful. I'm not sure that they really had that much interest anymore. I hate to say that because I think there's a lot more to go."

HUMANS---AMC renewed the series for Season 2.

BLACK SAILS---Starz renewed the series for Season 4. Starz is also developing a series titled HAVANA QUARTET starring Antonio Banderas and based on the novel series about a Cuban police detective who wants to be a writer.

MARVEL'S JESSICA JONES---it's been confirmed that DAREDEVIL's Claire Temple (Rosario Dawson) will do a crossover on JESSICA JONES.

EDGE---Yvonne Strahovski (CHUCK) will play a Pinkerton detective in the Shane Black/Amazon Western pilot.

WHAT HAPPENED TO MONDAY?---sci fi movie starring Noomi Rapace, Willem Dafoe and Glenn Close. Set in the future where famine and over-population has forced society to adopt a one-child only policy, seven identical sisters, each code-named after a day of the week, skirt the policy by having one of them venture outside on the day they're named after...until Monday doesn't return.

BIG SKY---Kyra Sedgwick, Bella Thorne and Frank Grillo star in this movie about a mother taking her agoraphobic teenage daughter to a treatment center when their van is attacked by two masked gunmen.

HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER---Famke Janssen (X-MEN) will join the cast as a defense attorney.

IMPERIUM---Daniel Radcliffe stars in this movie about an FBI agent who goes undercover in a white supremacist group trying to develop a dirty bomb.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

All this talk about Star Wars VII having mainly practical effects is utter rot. Pure economics alone dictates that CGi will be used extensively in the film and anything to the contrary is just PR spin to placate the fan boys.

Remember Spielberg saying much the same thing about Indiana Jones & The Craptacular Skullfuck? How did that one work out?

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

All this talk about Star Wars VII having mainly practical effects is utter rot. Pure economics alone dictates that CGi will be used extensively in the film and anything to the contrary is just PR spin to placate the fan boys.

Yes and no. To an extent, the practical effects talk in Mad Max was also rot: so many shots were touched up with CGI. The difference, and I think it showed, is that so much of it was not pure CG. There was a practical basis which lent the action a physicality and heft that is often missing from pure CG action scenes. So no, it's not "utter rot". Of course almost every shot in the film will be digitally touched up, but so what? It will still probably look better than a shot rendered 100%

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

All this talk about Star Wars VII having mainly practical effects is utter rot. Pure economics alone dictates that CGi will be used extensively in the film and anything to the contrary is just PR spin to placate the fan boys.

Yes and no. To an extent, the practical effects talk in Mad Max was also rot: so many shots were touched up with CGI. The difference, and I think it showed, is that so much of it was not pure CG. There was a practical basis which lent the action a physicality and heft that is often missing from pure CG action scenes. So no, it's not "utter rot". Of course almost every shot in the film will be digitally touched up, but so what? It will still probably look better than a shot rendered 100%


So, you're suggesting that ILM have built a load of models of the Falcon, Star Destroyers, X Wings, TIE fighters etc., all shot on a motion control rig? And also they have used a bunch of matte paintings? And the light-Sabres are rotoscoped animation? And they have built vast sets on sound stages like in old days, instead of small little sets surrounded by green screen?

Sorry, but I think you are going to be very disappointed if you believe that. In fairness, I bought into the hype on Crystal Skull and honestly thought it was going to be old-school movie making rather than the (mainly terrible) CGI that proliferated that risible movie.

Granted I think there will be a fair bit of practical stuff in Episode VII but that will be mainly aliens and droid stuff I suspect.

Nope, sorry, I maintain it IS pure PR crap that there will be very little CGi in the movie. Just look at the trailer and tell me that the sequences of the X-Wings flying over water is not CGI, for example. And that is just one sequence.

Need further proof? Take a look at the list of technical credits for the film and see how many digital artists are working on it. That's a hell of a lot of crew for "28 pure CGi shots".

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Remember Spielberg saying much the same thing about Indiana Jones & The Craptacular Skullfuck? How did that one work out?

Yep. Two movies that have zero similarities besides the George Lucas association, released seven years apart... That clinches it! They're definitely analogs for one another.

Also, they used the phrase "pure" relating to CGI shots. There will be CGI, but they're trying to avoid a computer generated avalanche like the prequels.

Maybe you can lend us your copy of the film?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

So, you're suggesting that ILM have built a load of models of the Falcon, Star Destroyers, X Wings, TIE fighters etc., all shot on a motion control rig? And also they have used a bunch of matte paintings? And the light-Sabres are rotoscoped animation? And they have built vast sets on sound stages like in old days, instead of small little sets surrounded by green screen?

It's not farfetched. The LOTR films are a prime example of contemporary FX that are built around sets and physical models, but which is then combined organically with CGI (something they departed radically from in the CG-heavy HOBBIT films). So my guess is that it's something like that, which sounds pretty much perfect to my ears. Bring it on, I say!

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

JONNY QUEST---Robert Rodriguez- This is going to suck so bad. Rodriguez is perhaps the worst choice for this property.

TRON ASCENSION- Disney isn’t going to drop a successful franchise regardless of Star Wars and Marvel. The fact is Tron was never successful in any form. The first film bombed. The sequel cost to much to make back it’s money. The toy line didn’t sell, and the animated series got axed after only 10 or so episodes. Sad for Tron fans, but mothballing the Tron franchise is the correct decision to make.

STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS- As already stated every frame will be tweaked digitally in post production. So yeah, only 28 CGI shots is just fan boy propaganda. The X-Wings over the water in the trailer looks overly CGI'ed. So they ruined the model work in post production anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

JONNY QUEST---Robert Rodriguez- This is going to suck so bad. Rodriguez is perhaps the worst choice for this property.

Totally agree. Rodriguez is the worst choice for any movie, he's a terrible director.

TRON ASCENSION- Disney isn’t going to drop a successful franchise regardless of Star Wars and Marvel. The fact is Tron was never successful in any form. The first film bombed. The sequel cost to much to make back it’s money. The toy line didn’t sell, and the animated series got axed after only 10 or so episodes. Sad for Tron fans, but mothballing the Tron franchise is the correct decision to make

Also agreed. I like the first film but the sequel was just rubbish. And as you say, neither film performed well financially.

STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS- As already stated every frame will be tweaked digitally in post production. So yeah, only 28 CGI shots is just fan boy propaganda. The X-Wings over the water in the trailer looks overly CGI'ed. So they ruined the model work in post production anyway.

Thank you!!! So glad to see that this "we're making this the old-fashioned way" crap isn't fooling everyone.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Oh, the cynicism. Read the quote again. Only 28 PURE, 100% CGI shots. Not 28 CGI shots for the entire movie. Good grief.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I reckon eight seasons is about right for Game Of Thrones. I've seen the first four, & by season eight I don't think any of the original characters will still be alive, & isn't the big winter coming to kill most people off anyway. It is a great show.

The Walking Dead is great, but it is so relentlessly grim.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Oh, the cynicism. Read the quote again. Only 28 PURE, 100% CGI shots. Not 28 CGI shots for the entire movie. Good grief.



Oh, don't rain on the parade. I love seeing the panties all wadded up big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

All this talk about Star Wars VII having mainly practical effects is utter rot. Pure economics alone dictates that CGi will be used extensively in the film and anything to the contrary is just PR spin to placate the fan boys.

Remember Spielberg saying much the same thing about Indiana Jones & The Craptacular Skullfuck? How did that one work out?


What?! You're telling me Harrison wasnt in that flying refrigerator?!

Thank you!!! So glad to see that this "we're making this the old-fashioned way" crap isn't fooling everyone.

"lying" is the old-fashioned way (ie there's a sucker born...). wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Considering the bullshit Abrams has pulled on people in the past with the "mystery box" and the wanton fabrication of everything (what little that was) that amounted to Lost, I'm amazed people trust him with anything let alone Star Wars.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Oh, the cynicism. Read the quote again. Only 28 PURE, 100% CGI shots. Not 28 CGI shots for the entire movie. Good grief.



Oh, don't rain on the parade. I love seeing the panties all wadded up big grin


It's the "pure" part that brings out the cynicism.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2015 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)



Looks like JJ's a fan of Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica, too.

That frame is utterly reminiscent of the standoff between the Galactica and Pegasus when the latter wanted the former to hand over Boomer.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Considering the bullshit Abrams has pulled on people in the past with the "mystery box" and the wanton fabrication of everything (what little that was) that amounted to Lost

Misplaced blame there, given how little he had to do with the series after the pilot.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Oh, the cynicism. Read the quote again. Only 28 PURE, 100% CGI shots. Not 28 CGI shots for the entire movie. Good grief.

Yes, I got that thanks. My point is this simply isn't accurate - unless it just so happens that all 28 pure CGI shots are in the trailer.

Saying 28% is almost the same as Spielberg saying there would be "very little" CGi in that rubbish Indy film he phoned in direction to.

If Episode VII doesn't have a lot more than 28 pure CGI shots in it, I'll eat a plastic Chewbacca action figure.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I don't care if the effects are practical or CGI, just don't obscure them by bathing them in lens flare.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

I don't care if the effects are practical or CGI, just don't obscure them by bathing them in lens flare.


Indeed, the last 'Star Trek' movie was almost ruined by those lens flares. Didn't understand what they were trying to accomplish.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2015 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Oh, the cynicism. Read the quote again. Only 28 PURE, 100% CGI shots. Not 28 CGI shots for the entire movie. Good grief.

Yes, I got that thanks. My point is this simply isn't accurate - unless it just so happens that all 28 pure CGI shots are in the trailer.

Saying 28% is almost the same as Spielberg saying there would be "very little" CGi in that rubbish Indy film he phoned in direction to.

If Episode VII doesn't have a lot more than 28 pure CGI shots in it, I'll eat a plastic Chewbacca action figure.


So you consider that shot of the X-Wings flying over the lake pure CGI? The shot of the Millenium Falcon flying over the desert while being chased by TIE Fighters to be pure CGI? Because those aren't pure CGI shots.

 
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