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 Posted:   Aug 4, 2015 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

As the video suggested its unclear if they have the right to do a cross-over. Licenses are very precise. Unless it stipulates what you want to do, you can't do it.

As far as this film, I don't think we expected anything else.

 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2015 - 8:13 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

As the video suggested its unclear if they have the right to do a cross-over. Licenses are very precise. Unless it stipulates what you want to do, you can't do it.

Fox already has the movie rights for the FF, the X-Men, and all characters and villains pertaining to those teams — like the (original) Skrulls, the Sh'ar, Annihilus, Kang, etc. Fox can produce a movie combining these characters, which I think may be their next move following Age of Apocalypse.

Fox let Daredevil go. Too much time lapsed and they decided to not make more DD films.

Universal still holds the distribution rights for the Hulk.

Sony has Spider-Man and all his characters, but they and Marvel worked something out so Spider-Man can have a cameo in Captain America: Civil War.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

This review actually makes me want to see the film!

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/fantastic-four-31314

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

This review actually makes me want to see the film!

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/fantastic-four-31314


Yeah, I already read that, I did not believe a word of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

No Stan Lee cameo? Count me in!

When i was little and had only the cash to follow DC or Marvel comics i went with DC. Sure they had Batman and The Flash, etc. that i liked, but what turned it for me, at 11 years old, was DC didn't have Stan Lee's face spouting bollocks at the start of every comic (that's what it seemed like).

Now in every Marvel film there's that one bit where they point the camera at him and it immediately takes me out of the film. I can't wait till they stop doing that.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Just edited out comment, which could be construed as snarky. Sorry!

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This review actually makes me want to see the film!

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/fantastic-four-31314


I would welcome something different, creative more grounded. But being different in itself doesn't make it good or better. I did read one review that basically called it an "indie" film. So there seems to be some consensus.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I did something I never do.

I read a spoiler-heavy plot breakdown.

Three words.

SAVE. YOUR. MONEY.

A few more words:

This movie is being dubbed FFINO: 'Fantastic Four In Name Only.'

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Just edited out comment, which could be construed as snarky. Sorry!

Nah, your comment was fine. Besides we're all snarky around here. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

This review actually makes me want to see the film!

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/fantastic-four-31314


I would welcome something different, creative more grounded. But being different in itself doesn't make it good or better. I did read one review that basically called it an "indie" film. So there seems to be some consensus.



The HR review, and most of the others, makes it sound like a whole lot of buildup to nothing at all, which a lot of 'indie' movies are like pretty much. And that is not really what people want in the summer blockbuster - I mean I am not sure why a studio would want to spend $150 million on that kind of story, if you can call it a "story". It all smells like a gag for them just to keep the property by producing "a work" before the deadline.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This review actually makes me want to see the film!

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/fantastic-four-31314


I would welcome something different, creative more grounded. But being different in itself doesn't make it good or better. I did read one review that basically called it an "indie" film. So there seems to be some consensus.



The HR review, and most of the others, makes it sound like a whole lot of buildup to nothing at all, which a lot of 'indie' movies are like pretty much. And that is not really what people want in the summer blockbuster - I mean I am not sure why a studio would want to spend $150 million on that kind of story, if you can call it a "story". It all smells like a gag for them just to keep the property by producing "a work" before the deadline.


Sure we all know FOX just cranked something out at the eleventh hour so they could hold onto the rights. And don't forget 20 million was reportedly reshoots. I really don't know why they bothered. They should know their not going to get their money back if it was that bad to begin with. If the director had his act together it might have been something good.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/aug/05/fantastic-four-review-marvel-superhero-dawdling

Just read this review - i think it has spoilers - in that it tells you the overall story, but it's not really too much of a surprise to be honest, it's what i got from the trailer.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2015 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Yeah, trying to make a comic book blockbuster into an indie take off, not a very good idea really.
But of course that is why they hired Trank. But he was in way over his head. I would imagine his career is pretty torpedoed and he is wishing he never took this job. His is entirely absent from release week marketing.

Beyond that, you gotta ask the question one of these reviewers said today - maybe FF should just not be a movie at all. Not EVERY comic book needs to become a movie. Right now it looks like those Tim Story directed FF are pretty basically entertaining next to this smudge colored narrative ennui, and the Story FF are not very good at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2015 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

All of the reviews pretty much read like this one, a pretty thorough pounding it is getting.


It does sound like the director and much of the cast realized sometime during the production that the really do not give a crap about this movie. The PR directive from Fox seems to be to tell the 4 main cast to show up to interviews and act they are all best friends - to distract from the fact that they are not talking about the movie.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/ct-fantastic-four-movie-review-20150805-column.html

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2015 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)


Beyond that, you gotta ask the question one of these reviewers said today - maybe FF should just not be a movie at all. Not EVERY comic book needs to become a movie. Right now it looks like those Tim Story directed FF are pretty basically entertaining next to this smudge colored narrative ennui, and the Story FF are not very good at all.


IMHO, the Fantastic Four are easily the most challenging superhero team book to make work. To be successful you have to nail both the family dynamic of the team and the sense of wonder/in way over their head adventures. In the comics there haven't been many creators who were able to do that once Stan Lee and Jack Kirby left. John Byrne did it, Mark Waid did it, and Walter Simonsson did it, and Chris Claremont was able to do it in the X-Men/Fantastic Four cross-over (the less said about his later run on the Fantastic Four the better). Not many other writers came close.

With respect to the films, I thought Tim Story did a mostly decent job portraying the family aspect of the team, but he completely dropped the ball with Doctor Doom and made Galactus a cloud. I do think it is possible to make a great Fantastic Four movie, if for no other reason than that a spectacular Fantastic Four movie has already been made. It is called The Incredibles.

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2015 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

IMHO, the Fantastic Four are easily the most challenging superhero team book to make work. To be successful you have to nail both the family dynamic of the team and the sense of wonder/in way over their head adventures.

Yes. I think if they ever make another F4 film it shouldn't be a superhero movie, per se. Forget supervillains. We don't need Doom or Mole Man or whomever. Have it be an adventure movie. Reed does something crazy and we get a crazy sci-fantasy adventure where they get to go and explore and be a family and improve the world a little bit. Get trippy. Get wonderful. Forget grit and supervillains for a while.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2015 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/aug/05/fantastic-four-review-marvel-superhero-dawdling

Just read this review - i think it has spoilers - in that it tells you the overall story, but it's not really too much of a surprise to be honest, it's what i got from the trailer.


I like the end of the review: "A sequel has been announced for June 2017. Do you know what would be really fantastic? Leaving them on the page."

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2015 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)


IMHO, the Fantastic Four are easily the most challenging superhero team book to make work. To be successful you have to nail both the family dynamic of the team and the sense of wonder/in way over their head adventures. In the comics there haven't been many creators who were able to do that once Stan Lee and Jack Kirby left. John Byrne did it, Mark Waid did it, and Walter Simonsson did it, and Chris Claremont was able to do it in the X-Men/Fantastic Four cross-over (the less said about his later run on the Fantastic Four the better). Not many other writers came close.

With respect to the films, I thought Tim Story did a mostly decent job portraying the family aspect of the team, but he completely dropped the ball with Doctor Doom and made Galactus a cloud. I do think it is possible to make a great Fantastic Four movie, if for no other reason than that a spectacular Fantastic Four movie has already been made. It is called The Incredibles.


Spot on. Totally. Every damned word.

{applause}

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2015 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

This is another interesting review, pretty scathing.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/08/06/review-fantastic-four-is-a-tragic-chore-2/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2015 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)


With respect to the films, I thought Tim Story did a mostly decent job portraying the family aspect of the team, but he completely dropped the ball with Doctor Doom and made Galactus a cloud. I do think it is possible to make a great Fantastic Four movie, if for no other reason than that a spectacular Fantastic Four movie has already been made. It is called The Incredibles.



Entirely agree with you. Incredibles surpasses almost every superhero live action movie I know.
And I would certainly watch those Tim Story versions of FF anytime over this mess that just came out.

 
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