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 Posted:   Aug 26, 2016 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

My review of BEN-HUR, for anyone who's interested:

https://moviemusicuk.us/2016/08/26/ben-hur-marco-beltrami/

Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2016 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I like this score!!

Listening to it on Spotify and I quite like it, too. Not sure what Beltrami did to some of you to inspire such rancor, but I hope it was worth it.




It seems like Beltrami did what he could under the circumstances. Folks should keep in mind the director and producers he was working with. It's a fair guess that they dictated the direction the music would take. These guys can't just sit down and do what they want. It's work for hire, gotta please the boss.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2016 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Loverozsa   (Member)

Beltrami's score give greater credence to the classic masterpiece Rozsa inspired!

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2016 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Very impressive!


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2016 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

My review of BEN-HUR, for anyone who's interested:

https://moviemusicuk.us/2016/08/26/ben-hur-marco-beltrami/

Jon


Great review. Erudite but accessible. I haven't heard the score and won't be hearing it, but I can pretty well imagine it from this reading.

Just one nitpick: "The 1959 Ben-Hur ushered in an era of magnificent sword-and-sandals epics that lasted a decade". The '59 B-H didn't usher in an era but came tolward the end of one, which (more-or-less) started with DeMille's Samson & Delilah ('49) and ended somewhere in the mid-60s with a number of expensive flops (The Bible, Fall of the Roman Empire, Greatest Story etc). B-H could only have been made when it was, learning as it did from a decade of mistakes.

Incidentally, is there really a track on the soundtrack album called 'Ben and Esther?" Is no one associated with this production aware that 'Ben' in this context is a title (Son of...), or designation, not a name? Is there any end to the incompetence of the people associated with this production? (Answer: No).

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2016 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Incidentally, is there really a track on the soundtrack album called 'Ben and Esther?" Is no one associated with this production aware that 'Ben' in this context is a title (Son of...), or designation, not a name? Is there any end to the incompetence of the people associated with this production? (Answer: No).

Before you get all bent out of shape, you should know that it's meant in jest. Beltrami's track titles are often puns/non-sequiturs/re-spellings/jokes/playful/flights of whimsy. Is there any reason to jump so quickly to judgment and automatically assume the composer is incompetent? (Answer: No).

If Beltrami didn't know the distinction, why would he have titled other tracks "Carrying Judah" and "Judah Ashore"?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2016 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   Loverozsa   (Member)

The sooner this remake and its music are forgotten, the better.

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2016 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

The sooner this remake and its music are forgotten, the better.

I really enjoy this music so I'm personally going to continue listening, but if you think things will be "better" then go ahead and forget about it...probably ignoring threads discussing the music and not participating in them will help speed up the process for you, wouldn't it?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2016 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

Incidentally, is there really a track on the soundtrack album called 'Ben and Esther?" Is no one associated with this production aware that 'Ben' in this context is a title (Son of...), or designation, not a name? Is there any end to the incompetence of the people associated with this production? (Answer: No).

Before you get all bent out of shape, you should know that it's meant in jest. Beltrami's track titles are often puns/non-sequiturs/re-spellings/jokes/playful/flights of whimsy. Is there any reason to jump so quickly to judgment and automatically assume the composer is incompetent? (Answer: No).

If Beltrami didn't know the distinction, why would he have titled other tracks "Carrying Judah" and "Judah Ashore"?


Thanks, Deputy, but I'm not at all bent out of shape; perhaps in my rush to correct I was recalling a reference to "Ben's girlfriend" in the program guide when the film first aired on TV. As for these jocular titles, are they really appropriate to a film with this subject matter, other than the fact that the whole project appears to have been one bad joke? I thought Morgan Freeman's dreadlocks were hilarious enough, but it appears Beltrami wants to get in on the joke as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2018 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

....and whilst on a Beltrami kick, I liked this also. Not going through this thread since its surely "one of those", but does anyone have stats of how long the score is, what the CD is missing?
As long as you don't keep grumbling Rozsa & Wyler, watch or listen to this thing on it's own terms, it's not bad. They surely departed enough that I wasn't constantly thrown back to 1959, anyway....

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2018 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

108 minutes

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2018 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I knew it felt longer in the picture than that cd!
Seems he dumped much of the last (and best) act from the cd. Shame.

Thank you Lokutus

 
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