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 Posted:   Aug 30, 2015 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

These are some major, in depth fan commentaries on all of John Williams's scores. Enjoy!

http://www.shotglassdigital.com/artist/star-wars-oxygen/

-Rick O.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 30, 2015 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

I have all theese podcasts ... they are superb ,,, real in depth analysis and really interesting .

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I made the mistake of listening to the first one about The Phantom Menace, and made it to the part where the one guy thought John Williams wrote "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana. I'd much rather listen to us idiots talk about this kind of thing than people like that. C'mon, Jimmy.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I made the mistake of listening to the first one about The Phantom Menace, and made it to the part where the one guy thought John Williams wrote "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana.

Unfortunately, this is the cusp of most podcasts: learned stupidity. Avoid to save your sanity and self-respect.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I made the mistake of listening to the first one about The Phantom Menace, and made it to the part where the one guy thought John Williams wrote "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana. I'd much rather listen to us idiots talk about this kind of thing than people like that. C'mon, Jimmy.

Good grief, that makes me laugh and shake my head in disbelief. I guess some uninformed people might think all concert classical music was written only in the last 50 years? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

There are two different people doing the podcast. One is a Star Wars aficionado in general, and the other is a musician and score music expert. He really knows his stuff about the scores and cites example after example on his piano, as well as making connections musically that are not always directly evident. His friend isn't quite as knowledgeable about the music but he contributes a supporting voice to the podcast. I would say that these are excellent, above average. Makes me miss the old FSM podcasts actually.

-Rick O.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I was thinking his confusion could have come from being part of the Napster/iTunes Generation, where all the artist tags for something like Summon The Heroes are John Williams no matter what. Either way, come on, man!

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I was thinking his confusion could have come from being part of the Napster/iTunes Generation, where all the artist tags for something like Summon The Heroes are John Williams no matter what. Either way, come on, man!

Good point, I do recall back in those Napster days how almost any piece of movie music uploaded was tagged under Williams.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I was thinking his confusion could have come from being part of the Napster/iTunes Generation, where all the artist tags for something like Summon The Heroes are John Williams no matter what. Either way, come on, man!

I think I see your point (e.g. when all of the songs on Born on the Fourth of July say Williams or everything on Apollo 13 says Horner). But isn't Summon the Heroes by John Williams?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   JohnnyRoastbeef   (Member)

I was thinking his confusion could have come from being part of the Napster/iTunes Generation, where all the artist tags for something like Summon The Heroes are John Williams no matter what. Either way, come on, man!

I think I see your point (e.g. when all of the songs on Born on the Fourth of July say Williams or everything on Apollo 13 says Horner). But isn't Summon the Heroes by John Williams?


Indeed Summon the Heroes is by Johnny, as are two other tracks on the Summon the Heroes CD. But all of the other tracks on the CD, by several other composers (including Carl Orff's Carmina Burana) likely come up as "artist: John Williams" in various CD databases, of course.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

It's true - in the Napster days, you'd see plenty of "Gremlins Theme by John Williams," "Back to the Future by John Williams," etc etc etc. Those people who would download such a thing, but would never pony up money for a disc of film score music, probably carry that wisdom into the modern day.

Indeed Summon the Heroes is by Johnny, as are two other tracks on the Summon the Heroes CD. But all of the other tracks on the CD, by several other composers (including Carl Orff's Carmina Burana) likely come up as "artist: John Williams" in various CD databases, of course.

I think the standard for Williams compilations on those databases is to list something like "John Williams; the Boston Pops" as the artist, and to hide the actual composer elsewhere in the metadata. Used to drive me crazy, but not as crazy as changing the info on every track so I've just come to accept it when I rip a new CD onto my hard drive.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

Another reason I hate downloading music, and digital media in general. On iTunes, gracenotes is often full of misinformation and ignorance when it comes to artists, titles, etc.

-Rick O.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

On iTunes, gracenotes is often full of misinformation and ignorance when it comes to artists, titles, etc.

I know it doesn't change your point, but the information on Gracenote is user-generated. Gracenote is owned by Tribune Media, and provides the same information to several different media players.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

On iTunes, gracenotes is often full of misinformation and ignorance when it comes to artists, titles, etc.

I know it doesn't change your point, but the information on Gracenote is user-generated. Gracenote is owned by Tribune Media, and provides the same information to several different media players.


Yes, my Bose Lifestyle system stores music on a hard drive and it uses Gracenote. And the data entered from other users is often erroneous.

-Rick O.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I was thinking his confusion could have come from being part of the Napster/iTunes Generation, where all the artist tags for something like Summon The Heroes are John Williams no matter what. Either way, come on, man!

Good point, I do recall back in those Napster days how almost any piece of movie music uploaded was tagged under Williams.


Which should prove the point: someone didn't do the basic homework before starting their podcast.

Shit journalism, thy name is internet.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

on the whole the podcasts are really interesting and some good analysis .

I am sure they are not up to the standard of some JW forum members .

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Makes me miss the old FSM podcasts actually.

-Rick O.


You should really try out Sideshow Sound Theatre's film music podcasts.
http://sideshowsoundtheatre.com/category/podcasts/

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

Makes me miss the old FSM podcasts actually.

-Rick O.


You should really try out Sideshow Sound Theatre's film music podcasts.
http://sideshowsoundtheatre.com/category/podcasts/

-Erik-


Thank you, Erik!

-Rick O

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I was thinking his confusion could have come from being part of the Napster/iTunes Generation, where all the artist tags for something like Summon The Heroes are John Williams no matter what. Either way, come on, man!

Good point, I do recall back in those Napster days how almost any piece of movie music uploaded was tagged under Williams.


Which should prove the point: someone didn't do the basic homework before starting their podcast.

Shit journalism, thy name is internet.


IMO podcasts are typically "talk radio" more than "journalism" - more off-the-cuff conversation, less research. So I wouldn't necessarily go into a podcast looking for an education, and I wouldn't necessarily hate a podcast for somebody saying a few things wrong.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

So I wouldn't necessarily go into a podcast looking for an education, and I wouldn't necessarily hate a podcast for somebody saying a few things wrong.

A lack of the most basic research reflects their care and character.

Flush twice, move on.

 
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