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 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)


I love Spielberg, he is such a great director, and this is pretty insightful too.



http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/02/steven-spielberg-superhero-movies

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I love Spielberg, he is such a great director, and this is pretty insightful too.



http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/02/steven-spielberg-superhero-movies



That'd be fine with me. I'd prefer one or two well made and interesting superhero/comic films a year as opposed to a dozen mediocre ones.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I'd prefer one or two well made and interesting superhero/comic films a year as opposed to a dozen mediocre ones.

But we don't get a dozen ones a year (mediocre or otherwise) now. They aren't rushed out, remember... and Marvel DOES make only one or two a year!

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

But we don't get a dozen ones a year (mediocre or otherwise) now. They aren't rushed out, remember... and Marvel DOES make only one or two a year!

Agreed. Of course, there's a certain contingent around here that pooh-poohs them across the board, including those movies with popular and critical success - and who apparently don't accept the attitude of "I guess it's just not for me" towards them.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Some people are hooked and will go to every one that is released. Others are more interested in the larger ones among the bunch, thus the success of the Avengers movies so far. The other films for individual characters help flesh out parts of the story and the characters involved. I don't recall many times where we have had so many interconnected movies that share characters and plots. There is something unique about the whole overarching marvel universe thing going on and the way they are ultimately building to some massive movies and characters. I typically stay away from the theaters so I watch most of the smaller films on Netflix but I still get out there for The Avengers and the second Avengers. There is something massive about those movies that we will only see more of going forward.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)


Someone used the word mediocre, and I agree. While the marvel stuff is indeed very large scale and big budget it remains factory produced mediocrity. I found the quality of Avengers pretty subpar with very unimpressive effects and obviously greenscreened backdrops shot in soundstages in New Mexico kind of look.

There are too many too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_superhero_films

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I like stories and characters that draw me in. It doesn't matter to me if its a small film or a big film. The Super Hero films have become carbon copies of one another. There's no real sense of drama or risk in these stories despite having end of the world plot lines. Seen one, seen them all.

Show something new visually. Give me an engaging villain. Give me something to latch onto. And now we're going to have a decade of endless Star Wars and Star Wars spin off films. Ugh!

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Just to make it clear to anyone who doesn't click the link to the article, Spielberg is not saying there is anything wrong with superhero movies per se. His concern as I understand it is more about how the genre is over-determining what gets into how many theaters, which is a fair point and an exact analogy to the dominance of Westerns in an earlier time.

“Right now the superhero movie is alive and thriving. I’m only saying that these cycles have a finite time in popular culture. There will come a day when the mythological stories are supplanted by some other genre that possibly some young filmmaker is just thinking about discovering for all of us.”

The link in the articles to the AP story gives a bit more of what he said:

AP: You caused a stir two years ago when you predicted Hollywood was headed toward an "implosion" because of the over-abundance of mega-budget movies. Do you still feel that way?

Spielberg: I do. I still feel that way. We were around when the Western died and there will be a time when the superhero movie goes the way of the Western. It doesn't mean there won't be another occasion where the Western comes back and the superhero movie someday returns. Of course, right now the superhero movie is alive and thriving. I'm only saying that these cycles have a finite time in popular culture. There will come a day when the mythological stories are supplanted by some other genre that possibly some young filmmaker is just thinking about discovering for all of us.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Spielberg has never directed a Superhero movie, has he? I wonder if he has ever been approached and he genuinely just doesn't find those type of movies of any great interest to him? I'm looking forward to seeing his new film as well, sounds good.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2015 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Hot off directing "Jaws," Spielberg was one of the directors the Salkinds approached for the original "Superman," but instead of saying "no" outright, he reportedly told them he'd like to do it as a musical.

--Or DID he . . . ?

http://legendsrevealed.com/entertainment/2015/09/01/did-steven-spielberg-want-to-direct-the-first-superman-movie-as-a-musical/

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2015 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

There's just one noticable flaw in Spielberg's notion: the shared-blockbuster-franchise age. The one he helped to create. Westerns were by and large cheap and made by the dozens, needing only a sufficient revenue to keep that wheel turning. Ever since Jaws hit the scene, Hollywood has been VERY SLOWLY learning how to balance budget with spectacle while relying on demographics and countries with disposable income. It's not necessarily about what type of film it is, but who is obliged to see it, with an entire industry promoted to its hype. I doubt that the likes of Roy Rogers and John Wayne were so inundated within a commercialized culture as Superman or Spiderman, whose images can be seen with ever turn inside any big box retail store (making them de facto toy stores). It's hard to be curious about originality when inundated with such Pavlovian conditioning.

When supermovies fall into decline, it'll first be at a fractional degree, enough for doomsayer bloggers to rejoice, but not enough to bankrupt Hollywood by the studio (already the "superhero fatigue" articles are spreading, and will continue year after year as if to make an egotistical difference). Whatever genre fix is meant to replace this one is already being gradually discovered and exploited by suits, not by "young filmmakers". The latter will be too busy building a resume of genre fare just to express more personal works much.... much later on. The pendulum of quality left town long ago, kids.

With that said, Civil War 2016! Woo!

 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2015 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

good post

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 5, 2015 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I second BillCarson's approval of Jarre's post. Though personally with the current output of the genre, I would of thought the historical epics of the 50's and 60's a more appropriate comparison point as far as genres go.

 
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