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 Posted:   Oct 3, 2015 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   mucrim   (Member)

Hello friends.
I want to ask you, Is this Vladimir Cosma's music??? Must be 1986 or before. I'm looking for the identity of this music. Vladimir Cosma comes to my mind.

http://www89.zippyshare.com/v/OCy3NLdc/file.html

Thanks

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2015 - 4:31 AM   
 By:   Cruikshank   (Member)

Doesn't sound like him to me

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2015 - 4:31 AM   
 By:   Cruikshank   (Member)

Nothing I would be familiar with.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2015 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   luquet3   (Member)

Hello friends.
I want to ask you, Is this Vladimir Cosma's music??? Must be 1986 or before. I'm looking for the identity of this music. Vladimir Cosma comes to my mind.

http://www89.zippyshare.com/v/OCy3NLdc/file.html

Thanks


It's not Cosma for sure. It's from a Turkish film by Erdogan Tokatli, but no idea who's the composer.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2015 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   mucrim   (Member)

OK friends, thanks for your comments.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2018 - 2:41 AM   
 By:   eda-88   (Member)

If you can reupload - i would like to try identify

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2020 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   eda-88   (Member)

Mucrim can you reupload that ? or email me ?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 2:19 AM   
 By:   mucrim   (Member)

Eldar, haven't you forgotten this thread? big grin
I taked it from here
starting at 24:48 and 1:09:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN2BVIRzJHM&

It is written in the movie information that the music is Vladimir Cosma.
Shooting started in 1987 and finished in 1992.
Must be from Vladimir Cosma's stock / library musics. I couldn't find it for 10 years

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Mucrim and Eldar: I listened to the passages you meant. The rhythm featured lengthily in the beginning of the first excerpt is unknown to me and I think Cosma could have possibly recorded it for this movie. Nice stuff. From 26'14 up to 26'40 you can hear clearly the main theme of LE BAL DES CASSE-PIEDS in a poor synth rendition, especially compared with the fantastic original version. This tune is featured again in the 2d excerpt from the very beginning.
The opening and closing titles are made of a slow synth variation of the main theme from LA SURPRISE DU CHEF (a tune also reused in DUOS SUR CANAPE). I didn't check the whole movie since I can't understand the Turkish language but I know that the main theme of IL GELE EN ENFER is also used somewhere.
In French this movie is called MERCEDES, MON AMOUR.
I just hope it was helpful to you.
Laurent

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 3:08 AM   
 By:   eda-88   (Member)

Mucrim and Eldar: I listened to the passages you meant. The rhythm featured lengthily in the beginning of the first excerpt is unknown to me and I think Cosma could have possibly recorded it for this movie. Nice stuff. From 26'14 up to 26'40 you can hear clearly the main theme of LE BAL DES CASSE-PIEDS in a poor synth rendition, especially compared with the fantastic original version. This tune is featured again in the 2d excerpt from the very beginning.
The opening and closing titles are made of a slow synth variation of the main theme from LA SURPRISE DU CHEF (a tune also reused in DUOS SUR CANAPE). I didn't check the whole movie since I can't understand the Turkish language but I know that the main theme of IL GELE EN ENFER is also used somewhere.
In French this movie is called MERCEDES, MON AMOUR.
I just hope it was helpful to you.
Laurent


Mucrim and Laurent hello!
Good to hear from you, you wrote same message on my mail and i answered the same as Laurent, that the theme which re-arranged is clearly motif of LE BAL DES CASSE-PIEDS but another version. And it's surprising but i exactly suggested Mucrim to ask Laurent smile As good specialist of rare Cosma which is unknown for many of us.
Later on 55-56 , 58-59 minutes same theme just on piano.

Need to watch credits, maybe director/composer/producer has taken from same library for example as Jean-MArie Pallardy made with LE RICAIN - where he used a lot of CAM library stuff, Morricone, Sarde, Bacalov, Patucchi, Carlo Pes, Nicolai, others stuff... And same done Paul Nashy in his DRAGONFLY FOR EACH CORPSE

In this case they maybe got another Patchwork or whatever rare records by Cosma (which i probably don't have) and used in a lot of Turkish movies.

Thanks for the others notes and identifying stuff, Laurent!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Eldar, sorry if I repeated stuff you already said but I couldn't find it in this thread. I'm now browsing through this movie and really think Cosma recorded the synth stuff especially for it, like the main titles, the slow and romantic piano version of LE BAL DES CASSE-PIEDS you hinted at or the short suspense heard from 32'34 to 33'. Other tracks stem directly from the original recordings, for instance the pan flute melody Naï, naï, naï from LE RETOUR DU GRAND BLOND featured from 32'24 to 32'30 and again briefly from 39'30 on, or the well-known orchestral suspense stepping in at 49'14 up to 50', used repeatedly in many movies and series. As a whole, this is a very minor score, once again because of the reused tunes and the synth. I mentioned IL GELE EN ENFER in my previous post but to be more precise, the short bit you hear on the accordion from 1'17'02 (and again in the credits) stems from The Lady from Amsterdam from COURAGE, FUYONS, the tune that later spawned IL GELE EN ENFER.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   eda-88   (Member)

Thanks for a lot of identified tracks!

Do you think Cosma could write some new and unreleased for non-French movies?

P.S. Laurent, i would like you to help me out with identifying of pre-existing Morricone music in QUARTIERE and L'UOMO PROIETTILE, i can't share at YouTube but i can send you movies, if you can download through my link, that would be great?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

Thanks for a lot of identified tracks!

Do you think Cosma could write some new and unreleased for non-French movies?


Yes, he contributed for instance to various American or say international productions like MISTRAL'S DAUGHTER, TILL WE MEET AGAIN, THE NIGHTMARE YEARS, THE NIGHT OF THE FOX, etc.

In the beginning of the Turkish movie we're discussing, I just identified the accordion track Jerry chez les Bavarois from RETENEZ-MOI OU JE FAIS UN MALHEUR featured from 2'47 to 3'35.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   mucrim   (Member)

I really can't believe it. You are perfect. You have solved the correct melody. smile I congratulate you Laurent78 and Eda 88.
I checked Cosma's library music a lot and then I stopped hope.
Thank you very much Eda for not forgetting that you helped solve this unknown. Bravo

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2020 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

You're welcome Mucrim. Actually, it was pretty easy to recognize the main theme from LE BAL DES CASSE-PIEDS because it's been a favourite tune ever since this movie by Yves Robert came out in 1992. Mind that Cosma also uses to perform it live very successfully with various soloists (cymbalum, pan flute, etc) instead of the original sax soloist Tony Coe. You can find a superb version of it lasting almost 8' on the recent double live CD VLADIMIR COSMA EN CONCERT.

 
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