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 Posted:   Oct 5, 2015 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)


I remember seeing a western in 1999 that I think was made for TV called PURGATORY. I thought it was a very good western with an unusual twist or take on standard westerns. I also remember liking the music in the final shoot out. Well-done westerns have to have a great shoot out. The score was by Brad Fiedel whom I always associated with Terminator movies. He does a nice job with the ending themes. Below is a youtube video of the final 20 minutes of the movie. The theme is first introduced at about 1:55 with a full treatment at 4:50 and in various other parts including the end credits. Anyone else remember this movie?

Yep, there is definitely a heaven and hell according to this western. Enjoy this rather unique score, and if you get a chance, watch the whole movie. It is on Encore’s western channel at times and on demand on Encore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UemkK-5aKwo

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2015 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Strange to think about, this was one of Fiedel's absolutely final scores.

He stopped writing film music after 1999.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2015 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I wonder why he quit composing? He was only about 49 or 50 in 1999.

So I guess to generate lots of interest in a topic, I need to title future topics, "I've actually heard all of Williams' future Star Wars compositions and I didn't dream them." wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2015 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I wonder why he quit composing? He was only about 49 or 50 in 1999.

He got fed up. His career kind of went downhill after True Lies and Johnny Mnemonic.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2015 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Hey Joan, I'll reply to your thread about Purgatory when you reply to my thread about the new Sondheim-inspired album! wink

Hey, wait, this IS a reply isn't it? Darn it!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2015 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I really enjoy Fiedel's music. We need more releases of his material.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Very intriguing, Joan. I've always wondered about Fiedel's more orchestral chops, and they're on display here. I don't know if people know this, but Fiedel comes from a strong musical family, and was somewhat of a 'wunderkind' as a child. He even had a career as a dance composer at NY City University. There's not a lot of that in his more electronic scores, but you can hear here that he knows different idioms.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Interesting information, Thor. I didn't know anything about his background except he did Terminator, True Lies, etc. In my ignorance, I also thought he did Alien Resurrection which I now realize was by Frizzell. I always associated Fiedel with electronics, but he does use orchestra in this finale. He even adds some choir for a celestial effect at the end of the movie.

He isn't composing anymore for Hollywood. I wonder if he is doing other types of composing? I should research this.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Interesting information, Thor. I didn't know anything about his background except he did Terminator, True Lies, etc. In my ignorance, I also thought he did Alien Resurrection which I now realize was by Frizzell. I always associated Fiedel with electronics, but he does use orchestra in this finale. He even adds some choir for a celestial effect at the end of the movie.

He isn't composing anymore for Hollywood. I wonder if he is doing other types of composing? I should research this.


http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=72775&forumID=1&archive=0

Looks like he couldn't stand temp tracks...

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I wonder how this was:

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/brad-fiedels-borrowed-time-august-22nd-23rd-tickets-12184962551

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Very intriguing, Joan. I've always wondered about Fiedel's more orchestral chops, and they're on display here. I don't know if people know this, but Fiedel comes from a strong musical family, and was somewhat of a 'wunderkind' as a child. He even had a career as a dance composer at NY City University. There's not a lot of that in his more electronic scores, but you can hear here that he knows different idioms.

Yes, who would have guessed he could do such a nice job with a traditionally orchestral sequence (the final showdown in a good 'ol western!). Very impressive, Joan, and thank you for posting the link. I enjoyed the finale, especially Eric Roberts finally getting his just deserts. Intriguing plot line, guess I'll have to watch the whole thing on You-tube. Plus, I'd like to hear the rest of Fiedel's score. (He rises several notches on my list.)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

FB, I found similar information. He was going to build and work on a "surf resort" in Mexico and do a musical and write other music for the "internet" according to my reading. Kind of neat that he could start pursuing his personal creative ideas by the age of 49.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I did an interview with him a few years ago you might enjoy -- he was a nice guy:

http://www.rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/bradfiedelinterview.html


I actually contacted him a couple years ago for this really well made superhero short film, but he appreciated the offer and declined.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Glad you liked it Dana. When I first watched the movie many years ago, nothing in the music really grabbed me until the finale. That's when he seemed to really create an interesting theme.

Justin, that was an insightful interview. Wonder what he would have done with Titanic? I also sensed in that interview that he just didn't want to answer some of the questions and yet was very willing to answer other questions.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He thought he'd done a number of interviews and answered certain ones before, but I can't find all these interviews. If anything, the hit counter at the bottom of the page indicates people are reading this one for sure.

It's a shame, I remember some of his orchestral scoring, such as "True Lies", and wouldn't mind him for some Arnold films these days or even maybe be considered for the Avatar sequel.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2015 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   fintune   (Member)

Anyone else remember this movie?

I remember it well. It was actually heavily promoted here when it debuted on TV. It had a very impressive cast for a TV movie. I like several of Fiedel's scores (his synth scores, The Serpent and the Rainbow, etc.). I would really want to see Blue Steel released. A great score, and one of the most underrated thrillers of all time. It was great back in 1989, but watching it today, seeing how it was r-rated, how the guys actually used blood packs instead of cgi... It just makes one want to stand up and applaud.

A few books ("Hit and Run", for example) have some background info on some of the films Fiedel composed, like Gladiator. It seems they were often quite troubled productions. Johnny Mnemonic (which has matured "a bit" differently than Blue Steel) was another troubled one, with Mychael Danna's score still present on Japanese versions. I wouldn't be surprised if films like that had a negative effect on him.

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2015 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   Luigi   (Member)

I really like this score too.

And a very good film as well.

This music should be released some day.
I hope.

 
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