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Much as I love Bernard Herrmann, some of his scores are better presented as suites, IMO. Sometimes the albums give you too many variations of just a few themes.
For those of you who have heard both the album and the suite of "The Trouble with Harry," do you think the suite delivers the goods, or do you feel the album is overall more satisfying?
The suite is a pretty damned good piece of music apart from the film it was composed for.
Herrmann had a really good taste in preparing the concert presentations of his film scores that would work in the concert hall.
You might not agree with the tempos he choose when recording them, but as pieces of music, they have stood the test of time.
Ford A. Thaxton
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I loved the suite and thought I would love the album as well , but it's (to me) just a larger version of the suite. It's good , it's Herrmann after all , but not essential.
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The suite is a pretty damned good piece of music apart from the film it was composed for.
Herrmann had a really good taste in preparing the concert presentations of his film scores that would work in the concert hall.
You might note agree with the tempos he choose when recording them, but as pieces of music, they have stood the test of time.
I agree. Herrmann had a good ear for what would work in the concert hall. I think this has a lot to do with his surge of popularity in the 90s.
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I guess the problem is that this project would require cooperation of of Paramount, Universal and the Hitchcock estate. Since "The Lost Weekend" and "Desert Fury" have appeared, I guess, chances are better. Still, we don't know if the Hitchcock estate would support such a project. "Vertigo", of course, was an exception 
I'd really like to see all of them released - not just the "seven" lost ones, but all which Universal controls and of which sources exist... and if only Disney would release those Selznick tracks as well...
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I don't understand the concert hall references. Herrmann created these suites for LPs, did he not? How much live gigging was he doing during this period?
He recorded them for LP yes...
But all of them were designed to be performed Live in a concert hall.
Ford A. Thaxton
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While the score to THE TROUBLE WITH HARRY supports the film quite well, both are rather low on my lists of both Hitchcock films and Herrmann scores. I think the suite contains the real highlights, while the Varese complete score CD tends to drag. Don't get me wrong, I am glad somebody recorded the whole score; it's just not one of my "go-to" listens. I WILL say though, that the Varese CD contains one of the major elements the suite was lacking, and that was the softer, more lyrical sections. These moments (usually underscoring the growing relationship between Forsythe and MacLaine), appear frequently on the Varese CD, and in a variety of guises. This is the main reason I do come back the Varese CD occasionally.
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I bought the disc and enjoyed it, but I haven't played it again in years. In this case I agree that the suite is sufficient.
If it's the Varese re-recording you're referring to, and the artwork and CD are all in mint condition, let's chat. I missed out on it.
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I bought the disc and enjoyed it, but I haven't played it again in years. In this case I agree that the suite is sufficient.
If it's the Varese re-recording you're referring to, and the artwork and CD are all in mint condition, let's chat. I missed out on it.
I'm sorry I missed this chat lol! It's become quite an expensive CD.
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I bought the disc and enjoyed it, but I haven't played it again in years. In this case I agree that the suite is sufficient.
If it's the Varese re-recording you're referring to, and the artwork and CD are all in mint condition, let's chat. I missed out on it.
I'm sorry I missed this chat lol! It's become quite an expensive CD.
29.98 is ten dollars more than it originally sold for - that's "quite an expensive CD"?
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I agree that the Portrait is what is essential. But one thing the full album has that the suite lacks is is the wonderful autumnal sense that comes, for example, in the track called, um, Autumn. Seriously, as said earlier, the quiet music and the romantic music do a great job of conveying the sense of the season that is for me one of the most striking aspects of the film, which is a favorite in our household.
If $30 is too much for the album, there is always the digital version, which I'm enjoying right now on Spotify.
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29.98 is ten dollars more than it originally sold for - that's "quite an expensive CD"?
Thirty dollars for a CD would be considered expensive for many people.
You're right, and it was kind of ignorant for him to comment that way (no big deal though).
However I guess it was my mistake; the only copies I looked up were more expensive than the price he mentioned...I must have been looking in the wrong place.
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