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Nov 10, 2015 - 10:28 PM
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SchiffyM
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I'm a Goldsmith die die die hard, and certain ones aren't as captivating for me either, including a couple you named. But how can this be, Jerry was a god among men!??!
I know you're being facetious (at least somewhat), but I actually think that, for some, allowing that a favorite artist (of any stripe) didn't always bat 1000 is very difficult. Obviously, there are some here who seem to love all Goldsmith without exception (I believe Mr. Eastman is one), and I take them at their word.
But for me, acknowledging that Goldsmith, too, composed the occasional dud does not make even a tiny dent in his greatness. He was simply human. Hitchcock and Chaplin (to name two) were both responsible for some awful movies, but their places in the pantheon of great filmmakers is secure. I'd say that Coppola has made more clunkers than greats, but the great ones still make him one of the best of all time.
And the thing is, artists don't believe all of their own work is equally great. They don't put down their pens or cameras or batons or whatever they use and announce "Nailed another one!" They try every time, but some just don't come together the way they'd hoped.
But again, if you love "Chain Reaction," enjoy! (You've been waiting for my permission, right?) I listened to it again today, and it will be some time before I do so again. It's not for me.
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Nov 10, 2015 - 10:44 PM
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Tom Servo
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I'm a Goldsmith die die die hard, and certain ones aren't as captivating for me either, including a couple you named. But how can this be, Jerry was a god among men!??!
I know you're being facetious (at least somewhat), but I actually think that, for some, allowing that a favorite artist (of any stripe) didn't always bat 1000 is very difficult. Obviously, there are some here who seem to love all Goldsmith without exception (I believe Mr. Eastman is one), and I take them at their word.
But for me, acknowledging that Goldsmith, too, composed the occasional dud does not make even a tiny dent in his greatness. He was simply human. Hitchcock and Chaplin (to name two) were both responsible for some awful movies, but their places in the pantheon of great filmmakers is secure. I'd say that Coppola has made more clunkers than greats, but the great ones still make him one of the best of all time.
And the thing is, artists don't believe all of their own work is equally great. They don't put down their pens or cameras or batons or whatever they use and announce "Nailed another one!" They try every time, but some just don't come together the way they'd hoped.
But again, if you love "Chain Reaction," enjoy! (You've been waiting for my permission, right?) I listened to it again today, and it will be some time before I do so again. It's not for me.
I agree, I think it is quite often that we fans might value a score far more than the actual composer. It becomes precious to us due to the fact that we follow that composer, that we really connect with their works, but the composer himself is often the first to throw his own work under the bus. I'm sure Goldsmith wasn't precious about CHAIN REACTION in the slightest, but he provided the movie what it needed and brought his usual polish and class to the project, which at that point was considered "auto-pilot" by some fans. There are many highlights from Goldsmith's 90's output, but I'm fully aware that CHAIN REACTION wouldn't even crack the top 20. Regardless, I always get a kick out of the action cues he wrote for the movie.
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For myself, air conducting was just a lark that came from playing in and once or twice conducting student orchestras in my salad days. I did focus more on upbeat or busy cues when I air conducted. In part because it's more fun to move your arms around more when you are conducting a recording. Whereas it is even more of a challenge in some ways to conduct a live orchestra in a slow quiet piece. For me, anyway.
So no, it never defined my listening to music. But when I did it I was choosier about the cues I would go to than when I just listened through an album.
By the way, for me it's not so much the quieter cues in chain reaction that I am finding tiring. It's probably just the general repetition of the various motives and electronic pallet throughout the whole album. For this one I think I like a tighter presentation.
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