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I've just seen this announcement on the Miklos Rozsa website.
Apparently James Fitz has announced his intention to record "Thief" next year.
This is wonderful news, another epic Rozsa score being given the Tadlow treatment.
Could anyone confirm or deny this?
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This is AMAZING news!
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Any possibility of recording the songs not used in the film?
I know one was written for the genie.
Apparently, the original conception of this film was for it to be kind of a musical. There are still a few vestiges of this, with the harbor song at the very beginning, as well as "Abu's Song" and the later song sung by the princess's attendant.
A problem with them was that the lyrics were written by Sir Richard Vantissart, who was, as I recall, a British Cabinet member, closely involved with negotiating with the Nazi government, which was becoming increasingly aggressive in the same year this movie was being prepared: 1939. WWII began on Sept. 1 of that year. (Vantissart was uncomfortable being known as a song lyricist in a time when he felt he was supposed to project a more serious demeanor.)
Because of the ensuing war, film production was transferred to the U.S., where, apparently, much of it was re-shot. (The structure is complicated; I mean, how many movies do you know that begin with a flashback that takes up nearly half the picture?)
And Rozsa went with them, and completed the score there.
I also wonder whether the score went through as many changes as the production? Are there sections conceived but never recorded, as the structure changed? I wonder what kind of outtakes and extended cues exist.
For that matter, do the original orchestra parts exist? Or is everything being re-constructed?
Wonderful score. Really glad it's finally being recorded complete!
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This is wonderful news! But James, I hope you do remember that John Morgan (who I believe you've worked with in the past once or twice) has been collecting, and I believe reconstructing, pieces of this score for years now (in the hopes of recording it with William Stromberg, of course, but since they haven't put out a recording in a while...)
As great a reconstructionist as Leigh is, it'd be a shame to have him do the whole thing from scratch if you can coordinate with John to access the original materials he's been building up in his garage....
Yavar
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Nov 11, 2015 - 7:14 AM
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Doug Raynes
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Any possibility of recording the songs not used in the film?
I know one was written for the genie.
Apparently, the original conception of this film was for it to be kind of a musical. There are still a few vestiges of this, with the harbor song at the very beginning, as well as "Abu's Song" and the later song sung by the princess's attendant.
A problem with them was that the lyrics were written by Sir Richard Vantissart, who was, as I recall, a British Cabinet member, closely involved with negotiating with the Nazi government, which was becoming increasingly aggressive in the same year this movie was being prepared: 1939. WWII began on Sept. 1 of that year. (Vantissart was uncomfortable being known as a song lyricist in a time when he felt he was supposed to project a more serious demeanor.)
Because of the ensuing war, film production was transferred to the U.S., where, apparently, much of it was re-shot. (The structure is complicated; I mean, how many movies do you know that begin with a flashback that takes up nearly half the picture?)
And Rozsa went with them, and completed the score there.
I also wonder whether the score went through as many changes as the production? Are there sections conceived but never recorded, as the structure changed? I wonder what kind of outtakes and extended cues exist.
For that matter, do the original orchestra parts exist? Or is everything being re-constructed?
Wonderful score. Really glad it's finally being recorded complete!
There's a major feature about the unused songs for THIEF OF BAGDAD on the Rozsa Society website:
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mrs.miklosrozsa.info%2FTOBSyracuseFiles%2Fthiefatsyracuse.html&h=eAQHcPCDA
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Nov 11, 2015 - 7:15 AM
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JamesFitz
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This is wonderful news! But James, I hope you do remember that John Morgan (who I believe you've worked with in the past once or twice) has been collecting, and I believe reconstructing, pieces of this score for years now (in the hopes of recording it with William Stromberg, of course, but since they haven't put out a recording in a while...)
As great a reconstructionist as Leigh is, it'd be a shame to have him do the whole thing from scratch if you can coordinate with John to access the original materials he's been building up in his garage....
Yavar
I have tried to contact John ... but no reply. So I will be doing it "my way" with the same team who did EL CID, SHERLOCK HOLMES, QUO VADIS, SODOM AND GOMORRAH ....so I have a feeling we sort of know what we are doing especially as Nic knew Miklos very well and orchestrated at least 3 films for him along with Chris Palmer. We have a mixture of a few full scores, some short scores and some sketches to work from ....
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!
One of the great scores. I've enjoyed having the M&E track from the DVD as the only source available. But this will be WONDERFUL!
Again, a great big THANK YOU!!
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Miklos Rozsa is my favorite and to have James Fitzpatrick record this glorious score is simply wonderful news. With DUEL IN THE SUN and THIEF OF BAGDAD on the agenda, 2016 is going to be a fantastic year for golden age fans.
Amen to that! This is splendid news. With this and Duel in the Sun to look forward to, I can hardly wait for next year.
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