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 Posted:   Nov 20, 2015 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

http://www.broadwayworld.com/article/ALLEGIANCEs-George-Takei-Responds-To-Roanoke-Mayors-Claim-That-Interned-Japanese-Americans-Were-A-Threat-20151118

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2015 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

You've been around long enough to know you shouldn't start threads like this. It will surely be locked. Have fun with it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2015 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

You've been around long enough to know you shouldn't start threads like this. It will surely be locked. Have fun with it.

I didn't think internment camps were a controversial topic in 2015. Then again, nothing surprises me much these days.

I also thought that Takei's broadway show may be of interest to some. I had not known about it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2015 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

You've been around long enough to know you shouldn't start threads like this. It will surely be locked. Have fun with it.

I didn't think internment camps were a controversial topic in 2015. Then again, nothing surprises me much these days.

I also thought that Takei's broadway show may be of interest to some. I had not known about it.




It IS interesting. Why do people even think it's remotely cool to presume what the sheriffs and moderators will censure? Toadies really are not cool. Let David and co. decide.

Anyhow, is it really 'political' to talk about humanitarian issues? Presumably the links are re Star Trek and a Broadway production. You might as well say that the Paris thread was 'political'.

There's this (true event) scene in the movie 'Reach for the Sky' where Douglas Bader (Kenneth More) bawls out a desk-jockey and begs for some spare parts for his squadron. The desk-kockey warns him that the CO is not going to like this. When Bader is hauled up in front of the CO, he gets his spares. The desk-jockey is sacked for presuming to predict the CO's response.



'During the present crisis, we will suspend assistance to these people who need it, until the crisis is over, and they no longer need it'. That's like a line from Joseph Heller.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2015 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I apologize for my previous comment. It was unwarranted. I think my dislike for Mr. Takei temporarily clouded my opinion. Carry on.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2015 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

WILLIAMDMCCRUM wrote:.....Toadies really are not cool. Let David and co. decide.

the only time I can place someone using the term "toadies" is Karloff in BEDLAM (actually "toady-ing"), and seeing your avatar....is it something about the time period, clothes? wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)


the only time I can place someone using the term "toadies" is Karloff in BEDLAM (actually "toady-ing"), and seeing your avatar....is it something about the time period, clothes? wink



Ah, toadies ... old British slang.

I just noticed for the first time in that 'Bad Day at Black Rock' trailer above that Lee Marvin has his hat on backwards. Did he do that throughout, I wonder?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I apologize for my previous comment. It was unwarranted. I think my dislike for Mr. Takei temporarily clouded my opinion. Carry on.

Adam, how can you not like Mr. Takei. He is a barrel of laughs and a fascinating man, I always like to hear him speak.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I apologize for my previous comment. It was unwarranted. I think my dislike for Mr. Takei temporarily clouded my opinion. Carry on.

Adam, how can you not like Mr. Takei. He is a barrel of laughs and a fascinating man, I always like to hear him speak.


Back in the 80s I had a hugely interesting conversation with him about the internment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbour.

If only he would shut up about Shatner!

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I apologize for my previous comment. It was unwarranted. I think my dislike for Mr. Takei temporarily clouded my opinion. Carry on.

Adam, how can you not like Mr. Takei. He is a barrel of laughs and a fascinating man, I always like to hear him speak.


Back in the 80s I had a hugely interesting conversation with him about the internment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbour.

If only he would shut up about Shatner!


Yeah, he can be very insightful and intelligent about some things, and really annoying about other things.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2015 - 8:41 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I apologize for my previous comment. It was unwarranted. I think my dislike for Mr. Takei temporarily clouded my opinion. Carry on.

Adam, how can you not like Mr. Takei. He is a barrel of laughs and a fascinating man, I always like to hear him speak.


Hi Francis,

I agree that Mr. Takei can be a personable fellow and an engaging talk show guest. I recently heard him on a local Washington DC radio show and enjoyed the conversation. However, he can also be a very bigoted and hateful man when he wants to be. God forbid someone expresses a point of view that doesn't precisely align with his (in this case, rights for homosexuals) and he flies off the handle and starts making accusations of bigotry and even uses racial slurs against the one he disagrees with. His racial rant against a certain U.S. Supreme Court Justice was very offensive. He tried to back-track it a day later but the damage was done. He said it and he meant it. Because of his role in Star Trek I suppose I'll always have a certain affection for him but he really pisses me off sometimes.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

George Takei is bigoted? Against whom? I enjoyed watching the documentary about him, To Be Takei, on Netflix. Except for the subject of Shatner -- and come on' making fun of Bill Shatner is good sport -- I can't see who he's bigoted against, unless you mean those poor misunderstood conservatives among us. No, I can't imagine there's anyone here that thinks that.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Against the only African-American member of the US Supreme Court where he made remarks that had they been made about the first African-American President of the United States would have made him a permanent pariah.

People can be critical of other peoples political positions and legal philosophies all they like, but when there is an expectation that a person's skin color or ethnicity should somehow dictate what their political position or legal philosophy is supposed to be according to a manufactured standard invented by a self-righteous elite, that is bigotry and racism no matter how else you try to spin it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I apologize for my previous comment. It was unwarranted. I think my dislike for Mr. Takei temporarily clouded my opinion. Carry on.

Adam, how can you not like Mr. Takei. He is a barrel of laughs and a fascinating man, I always like to hear him speak.


Hi Francis,

I agree that Mr. Takei can be a personable fellow and an engaging talk show guest. I recently heard him on a local Washington DC radio show and enjoyed the conversation. However, he can also be a very bigoted and hateful man when he wants to be. God forbid someone expresses a point of view that doesn't precisely align with his (in this case, rights for homosexuals) and he flies off the handle and starts making accusations of bigotry and even uses racial slurs against the one he disagrees with. His racial rant against a certain U.S. Supreme Court Justice was very offensive. He tried to back-track it a day later but the damage was done. He said it and he meant it. Because of his role in Star Trek I suppose I'll always have a certain affection for him but he really pisses me off sometimes.


Takei is a damn bigot demanding equal rights for all people.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Except for the right of African-Americans to hold viewpoints contrary to his own. If they don't, then racist comments in his mind become perfectly acceptable.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Against the only African-American member of the US Supreme Court where he made remarks that had they been made about the first African-American President of the United States would have made him a permanent pariah.

People can be critical of other peoples political positions and legal philosophies all they like, but when there is an expectation that a person's skin color or ethnicity should somehow dictate what their political position or legal philosophy is supposed to be according to a manufactured standard invented by a self-righteous elite, that is bigotry and racism no matter how else you try to spin it.


And ironically he wouldn't have ever become a Supreme Court Justice if it wasn't for the civil rights movement or hell the North winning the Civil War. He took advantage of all that fought for his rights , now he fights to take them away from others. He's a disgrace.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

And there's another example of Takei-style racism in action which demands that all African-Americans think one way only on politics and legal philosophy "OR ELSE!"

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

"SHIELDS!"

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I love Sulu. I don't like Takei.
Reverse-racism is probably the worst form of racism, simply because it's the one that is the most cleverly clothed in self-righteous defense.

And his hateful obsession with Shatner stopped being funny and harmless a LONG time ago.
It's way past psychotic proportions.
I wouldn't doubt it if one day it put Takei's marriage in jeopardy.
No partner wants to hear that crap from their spouse all the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2015 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Didn't Takei apologise for the heated "blackface" comment he made? Are you really going to hold that one slip up against a person who was forced by the industry he worked in to stay in the closet for most his life, and was forced to spend his childhood in a Japanese-American internment camp at gunpoint by his own government? If anyone has the right to speak out against policymakers, it should be him. And his raising awareness about the Japanese-American internment camps should be commended as well as his gay rights activism.

To call this man a reverse-racist and a bigot to me sounds rather harsh. And Bill Shatner was an A-grade ***hole to most people he's worked with early in his career, that's well documented. I don't see why Takei shouldn't be allowed to talk about that as it's widely documented and Bill tormented these guys lol. He brought that on himself.

 
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