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I don't believe I have seen a thread about this new box set devoted to the film music of David Amram: www.amazon.co.uk/David-Amrams-Classic-American-1956-2016/dp/B015ZXCSAG I recall that only highlights of THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE were included on Varese Sarabande's release of the soundtrack to the more recent remake, and am hopeful that this set will include a remastered version of the full original score. Does anyone know anything more about this? Cheers
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Nov 30, 2015 - 6:05 PM
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thanks for posting, doc. It's news to me! Couple of links about the release - first is the distributor site, the other a pretty interesting interview with Amram and why he stopped doing film scores: http://moochinabout.com/index.php/david-amrams-classic-american-film-scores-cd/ http://www.londonjazznews.com/2015/11/interview-david-amram-cd-box-set-david.html Btw, MANCHURIAN was released by a different label before the sequel. I think it was complete. http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/9381/Manchurian+Candidate%2C+The So I guess these 5 scores (in bold lettering) are what's included in their entirety on the 6 discs. I wish he had included his UNUSED score for Frankenheimer's "7 Days in May": "Meanwhile, Amram also conducted 75 of the world s great symphony orchestras, composed more than 100 orchestral and chamber music works, 2 operas, 23 Broadway scores, and 20 film scores including iconic films such as, Splendor in The Grass (Warren Beatty/Natalie Wood) , The Manchurian Candidate (Frank Sinatra/Lawrence Harvey) , The Young Savages (Burt Lancaster/Shelly Winters) , The Arrangement (Kirk Douglas/ Faye Dunaway/ Deborah Kerr) and Pull My Daisy (feat the voice of Jack Kerouac) , which are all featured on this collection in their entirety, as well as the release for the first time ever of 2016 s - Isnt It Delicious."
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Is that the full listing, or can we hope for "Seven Days in May" at last?
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The previous complete release of Manchurian Candidate did indeed sound awful and was indeed from Mr. Amram's personal tapes. I don't think the Sinatra estate would be making a deal with such a label. But they could use the good sounding Varese cues based on the fifty-year rule. I'm looking forward to releasing a lot of early John Barry scores using the same rule - that would be cool, right? I would also assume that Splendor in the Grass will be from his personal tapes. I don't remember what deal we made for his On the Waterfront score, but my guess is Varese owns that recording and I'd like to know if those selections were properly licensed because those do NOT fall under the fifty-year rule.
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Thanks for this revelatory/celebratory news. My copy has been ordered. I only hope that I can live to see CD releases of all his wonderful concert pieces which currently exist only on LP. To say nothing of his long-unheard TV scores which don't exist anywhere commercially but which I long ago had the pleasure of hearing on acetates.
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Dec 1, 2015 - 1:06 AM
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The previous complete release of Manchurian Candidate did indeed sound awful and was indeed from Mr. Amram's personal tapes. I don't think the Sinatra estate would be making a deal with such a label. But they could use the good sounding Varese cues based on the fifty-year rule. I'm looking forward to releasing a lot of early John Barry scores using the same rule - that would be cool, right? I would also assume that Splendor in the Grass will be from his personal tapes. I don't remember what deal we made for his On the Waterfront score, but my guess is Varese owns that recording and I'd like to know if those selections were properly licensed because those do NOT fall under the fifty-year rule. Bruce, be careful with your words - as soon as I saw a lot of early John Barry scores, I immediately pricked up my ears like bloodhound Man In The Middle (no CD releases at all!!!) Zulu (we already have Blu-Ray with score, but still not on CD! Yes, I know that numerous CDs with original LP program are available, but we need something more - at least tracks without narration, if they still exist, of course!) King Rat (missed Sony re-release, would like to get new one from Kritzerland )
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Amram's score to SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS is masterful, with only a previous release on lp, later CD, of an album of film themes, played by Percy Faith. I definitely plan to get this set.
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I don't believe I have seen a thread about this new box set devoted to the film music of David Amram: www.amazon.co.uk/David-Amrams-Classic-American-1956-2016/dp/B015ZXCSAG I recall that only highlights of THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE were included on Varese Sarabande's release of the soundtrack to the more recent remake, and am hopeful that this set will include a remastered version of the full original score. Does anyone know anything more about this? Cheers Many thanks to Nigel for posting this topic. I've had a pretty good experience with sets from Moochin' About in the past, not 100% but consistent enough to warrant going ahead with an order on this set. I'm really looking forward to hearing SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS and other scores only ever available on LP or never at all. David Amram is a talented musician and a most interesting character, and his film and tv work is vastly under-represented on CD. Ordered!
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Too bad it's out of stock at amazon uk with no idea about when it will be back in stock.
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Too bad, yes, but on the same page another dealer has at least two copies in stock. I say "at least" because it said the same thing yesterday when I ordered one which has now been "dispatched" as they put it.
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On the Waterfront, if the Varese release, is a bootleg - period.
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Okay, time to call this what it is - Mr. Amram supplied everything and everything is not all aces. Obviously a lot of it falls under the fifty-year thing, but some most assuredly does not and that is truly irritating for many reasons. The biggest disappointment in the set is Splendor in the Grass. Apparently he only had the source cues and absolutely NONE of the dramatic score. We get the main title right off the DVD, which is why the fade out is there, we get some 20s pastiche, and we get some jazz arrangement of the theme that is NOT from the movie at all. Terrible. Manchurian - they've simply used the Varese stereo tracks along with the Premiere mono tracks, which sound awful. So, nothing new here, and still wackily out of film order. The Young Savages is, I'm sure, directly off the Intrada release, The Arrangment and On the Waterfront are absolutely bootlegs since Amram owns neither and both are well within copyright in the EU. The little bit from After the Fall is nice to have. Packaging is very nice with a nice booklet. But one can only hope that someday we get a properly licensed version of Splendor that contain the actual score.
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