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Love it. The main theme is in my head at least a couple times a week. Aside from Breakheart Pass, it's probably my favorite Goldsmith western score.
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I freaking adore this score! Thanks for asking. Yavar
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How do I REALLY feel about it, zooba? You're asking us for an honest opinion? Okay then... I (have) had the original LP for more years than a donkey can remember, and I always liked it. Very much. But it wasn't really until I got the LLL (album prog plus original soundtrack) that I realised what a pure joy it is. I don't know if it's my favourite JG western score (all of them have something to enjoy), but it's a greeeeat listen from beginning to end. So there you go. Honestly, I really love it.
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Feb 6, 2016 - 6:26 AM
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MusicMad
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Coincidentally, I played the score (as opposed to the album) last evening ... first time in well over a year. As usual, I found myself whistling/humming along to the joyous main theme, a tune I've known for 40+ years* But this score is a mixed bag ... I find much of it rather tedious, heavily OTT and not a great listen. I know many love most, if not all, of Mr. Goldsmith's works and for me, there's hardly one which hasn't something really good to latch onto. But this is one of those where, for me, the orchestration is really too much ... it needed to be lighter. I haven't seen the film for many years and, on my last viewing, it didn't end with me thinking I'd enjoyed it ... notwithstanding I like both Stewart and Martin. Okay, they played against type and maybe that's part of the problem ... but it wasn't a good film. I struggle to recall the music with the visuals and these days I struggle to enjoy or appreciate the score beyond the iconic main theme. I imagine I shall play either the score or the album alternately, only once every couple of years. As for the easy-listening main theme demo version ... interesting but I'm glad that wasn't the finished version! * I first heard and loved the Hugo Montenegro arrangement in the early 1970's ... it was the B-side to his chart-topping arrangement of a certain, significantly better, theme ... but the link to the YouTube does not work. The lady vocalist ... aaarrgghh ... I had to stop this at the end of the first line. For complete scores, I much prefer Goldsmith's Hour of the Gun (a much better film, too!) Mitch
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Hour of the Gun is the best Goldsmith western score indeed, and Rio Conchos and 100 Rifles are also strong scores. Bandolero is fine, too.
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I love the themes in BANDOLERO and its action cues (of course), but I don't return to it as often as I do 100 RILFES, TAKE A HARD RIDE and BREAKHEART PASS. I should really revisit it this weekend just to refresh my memory. I love Wild Rovers and FSM's presentation of it. My favorite Goldsmith western by far.
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Feb 6, 2016 - 12:24 PM
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One of the mre amusing aspects f FSM's 100 RIFLES release was how the liner notes encourage the listener to try and find the subtle differences between the mono and stereo cues. I love that wild and wooly FSM humor! BANDOLERO!, on the other hand iirc, the cd reissue had a few "offended" FSMers squawking regarding the timing of the release, whch was not long after Jerry's death. As for HOUR OF THE GUN, the one cue I wish were included on the album is the music that is heard when Wyatt Earp arrives either in the town or the hospital itself, to visit the ailing Doc Holliday. If memory serves, that cue, in terms of an album listening experience, would be sort of at odds with the rest of the score, but it's a lovely piece.
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Which CD release of HOUR OF THE GUN do you all recommend? I haven't added it to my collection yet. Well, the first thing you should know is that there have been three recordings made of Hour of the Gun. The complete film recording is, sadly, lost to the ages if reports are accurate. You can only hear it in the film. Jerry Goldsmith re-recorded roughly three fifths of the score for an LP album around the time of the film. It is a very good recording, faithful to the film recording in most respects except done with a smaller orchestra (and thus reduced orchestrations). It's not quite as severe a reduction as Franz Waxman's LP recording of Taras Bulba (that was a bigger epic score to begin with), but it is a bit different. Finally, just a few years back, Hour of the Gun was the first in Tadlow's series of complete new Goldsmith recordings financed by Prometheus. They had some original score materials used for the original film recording as I understand, and Nic Raine had to do minimal reconstruction on those (perhaps they were conductor scores). This recording is the only available recording of Hour of the Gun which is 1) complete and 2) matches the full original orchestrations of the film. For me, the advantage of the original LP recording is that it is conducted by Jerry Goldsmith himself, but the Tadlow/Prometheus recording has great sound quality, the fuller orchestra, and all the music that Jerry wrote for the film. It also has a fantastic bonus in a four-movement suite from The Red Pony, conducted by none other than James Fitzpatrick (the head of Tadlow) himself. It is a superb performance and only make me salivate to hear more of that wonderful score in modern stereo. So if you can only pick one, I would get the Tadlow recording, right here (and there are two video performance clips from the session rehearsal): http://www.tadlowmusic.com/2012/12/hour-of-the-gun/ Finally, as you'll notice if you follow the link, that recording is currently on SALE (for just a few more days) and will only cost you around $15 US if you're in this country, *including international shipping*! Get it now. Then if you like the score, pick up the original album recording at some later point (it's also out of print at the moment). I cherish both. Yavar
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