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 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Thomes Wanker? Seriously? Is that a real name? Oh my god.

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   SalaciousAckbar   (Member)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcma0bKjJlY

I love the film and Arnold's score. Of course it's disappointing that he won't be back, but I look forward to hearing what the new composer's come up with and give them the benefit of the doubt.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thomes Wanker? Seriously? Is that a real name? Oh my god.

It's a fairly common German surname, I think. But he changed his last name to Wander several years ago, when he entered the international scene.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Music by
Harald Kloser ... composer
Thomas Wanker ... composer



Well the first film, lifted, stole, ripped off, every sci fi film known to man. It was pure de crap. I hated then, and still along with Earthquake, Supergirl, Craptanic, and Crapatar, ID4 is a Colossal Failure of mind numbing die o log of nothingness. And guess what...the new ID4 ..We're Back with more mind numbing cliche bullshit. Remember we can spot a tick on planet pluto..but we can see these big giant ass spaceship's coming to earth...Oh the pain.


I was disappointed with the original ID4 for different reasons. I remember the seeing the trailer on the big screen as a feature before whatever movie I was seeing at the time. That trailer instilled a sense of dread. An unknown, superior enemy attacking Earth. I was hoping for something like..Cloverfield (even though that was years later - it was the invasion movie I was hoping for)

I remember the disappointment I felt when I was watching the movie and realised it was just another 'shoot 'em up' no brainer film.

Great score though.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Well the first film, lifted, stole, ripped off, every sci fi film known to man. It was pure de crap. I hated then, and still along with Earthquake, Supergirl, Craptanic, and Crapatar, ID4 is a Colossal Failure of mind numbing die o log of nothingness. And guess what...the new ID4 ..We're Back with more mind numbing cliche bullshit. Remember we can spot a tick on planet pluto..but we can see these big giant ass spaceship's coming to earth...Oh the pain.

Craptanic and Crapatar? Love it! Those terms should be used more frequently.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Easy to put the words 'crap' in front of everything, I guess, but it's not the most convincing argument!

By the way, I absolutely ADORE both TITANIC and AVATAR. Masterpieces, both of them!

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Ever since that wonderful clip someone posted of Arnie introducing his mate James Cameron's movie . . . "Abada," I can't see any other name for it that hits the deck with such a resoundingly satisfying thud. Pure genius.

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2016 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Thomes Wanker? Seriously? Is that a real name? Oh my god.

It's a fairly common German surname, I think. But he changed his last name to Wander several years ago, when he entered the international scene.



At least it's not Bubka Penis. wink

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2016 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

WHAT IF?

What if Harald is actually a pretty capable composer, as much as Arnold is. What if this time, feeling the "pressure" of Arnold's legacy on his shoulders, he would create a very melodic soundtrack? I know is a very long shot.. but, again, what if ?

Maybe is truly Roland Emmerich who has been asking that kind of generic action music, and the other problem Harald being an absolute "YES" man, . But this time is a sequel of a very melodic movie.

Maybe, just maybe, this time will be different.

What do you think ?

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2016 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

WHAT IF?

What if Harald is actually a pretty capable composer, as much as Arnold is. What if this time, feeling the "pressure" of Arnold's legacy on his shoulders, he would create a very melodic soundtrack? I know is a very long shot.. but, again, what if ?

Maybe is truly Roland Emmerich who has been asking that kind of generic action music, and the other problem Harald being an absolute "YES" man, . But this time is a sequel of a very melodic movie.

Maybe, just maybe, this time will be different.

What do you think ?


What if Dan Brown could write like William Faulkner?

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2016 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

WHAT IF?

What if Harald is actually a pretty capable composer, as much as Arnold is. What if this time, feeling the "pressure" of Arnold's legacy on his shoulders, he would create a very melodic soundtrack? I know is a very long shot.. but, again, what if ?

Maybe is truly Roland Emmerich who has been asking that kind of generic action music, and the other problem Harald being an absolute "YES" man, . But this time is a sequel of a very melodic movie.

Maybe, just maybe, this time will be different.

What do you think ?


What if Dan Brown could write like James Faulkner?


Today, you sir, win the internet.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2016 - 2:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

WHAT IF?

What if Harald is actually a pretty capable composer, as much as Arnold is. What if this time, feeling the "pressure" of Arnold's legacy on his shoulders, he would create a very melodic soundtrack? I know is a very long shot.. but, again, what if ?

Maybe is truly Roland Emmerich who has been asking that kind of generic action music, and the other problem Harald being an absolute "YES" man, . But this time is a sequel of a very melodic movie.

Maybe, just maybe, this time will be different.

What do you think ?


Exactly. I'm always confounded by the outright dismissals before people have even heard a note, or know what kind of music the film requires. People are allowed to be skeptical, of course, if they don't like a composer's work, but one should always wait before making value judgements. I learned that the hard way with Shore's LOTR scores, for example.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2016 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)


Exactly. I'm always confounded by the outright dismissals before people have even heard a note, or know what kind of music the film requires. People are allowed to be skeptical, of course, if they don't like a composer's work, but one should always wait before making value judgements. I learned that the hard way with Shore's LOTR scores, for example.


I am not sure what is so confounding about this. This is the fourth or fifth film Kloser and Wanker have scored for Emmerich, and pretty much each film has been an action/disaster epic. So, for those who have heard those scores, and don't like that sound, it is a pretty safe bet that they won't be fond of the sound for this film either. Is it possible that they will write a much different score than what Emmerich has asked for the previous films? Sure. But I think it is absolutely fair for someone who hasn't been fond of their previous work to be disappointed when they are hired to score a sequel to film that has a beloved score. Much like it is absolutely fair for someone to be excited when a director/composer team is announced for a film and no music has been written yet.

The comparison to being pleasantly surprised by Shore's LOTR is a poor analogy, as Shore had never previously scored any other films even remotely similar to LOTR. Prior to LOTR he had mostly been scoring dramas and comedies. Whereas here, this film is very much in Kloser's and Wanker's wheelhouse considering their relationship with Emmerich and the type of films they have been scoring for him.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2016 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Skepticism is fine, as is disappointment in composer assignments. That's why I mentioned the Shore/LOTR example. I remember being both skeptical and disappointed in the composer casting, and was obviously proven wrong. My issue, however, is with those who are so quick in their dismissive value judgements even if they haven't heard a note of the score. This is a problem in many film music communities (usually under the guise of some cheap joke).

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2016 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

The funny thing is that, whenever I hear the "main theme" of a Roland Emmerich film (except The Patriot), they sound very, well, Emmerichian... wether written by Arnold or Kloser. Take the intro/theme from The Day After Tomorrow for example... its development was not very fluid or musical, but it's theme was. So there you have a posible proof that Kloser(and Wanker) may be a YES man, following orders without problem.

As Kloser already stated that he will be using the main theme from David Arnold, and qualifying it as amazing, I really hope they alter their routine this time, making a very fluid, big, and melodic soundtrack.

One can only hope!

 
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