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No, I don't have actual information about a CD release of this score, but it *was* just announced to be coming out on Blu-ray from Twilight Time on July 12th. No doubt there will be a complete isolated score track, so the complete score for this will be available at last!
I certainly hope that either LLL or Intrada will take advantage of the complete score being prepared to put out their own expanded reissue on CD with the six missing original score cues (and perhaps some of the source music at the end if there's room).
For those wondering what those six missing cues are like but don't have time to find them in the film itself, a fan did a complete score breakdown here with track by track notes:
http://www.runmovies.eu/?p=7846
Here's an overall quote from that regarding the missing music:
"Whilst it is generally acknowledged by many (including Goldsmith himself) that The Russia House soundtrack album is too long (and I can see the logic in this, due to the repetitive nature of much of the suspense music), I feel that the inclusion of the remaining underscore cues (six in all) on a prospective reissue would reinforce the music’s validity. Some of these non-album cues incorporated more of the ethnic feel present in the score, such as Cue 29 (Katya Buys Flowers). Cue 7 (No Such Luck) begs inclusion despite its brief (35 seconds) running time."
Yavar
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Aaargh! I just bought this one days ago!! xS
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Well, last month Lilies of the Field came out from Twilight Time on Blu-ray, supposedly with a complete isolated score (nobody who got the disc has reported one way or the other, but the press release didn't mention any sound effects or it being incomplete). Yet no CD has come out. So don't feel too bad about your CD purchase yet...apparently expanded CDs for certain scores (even ones by Goldsmith) aren't as much of a priority for the labels. But at least the complete score IS being preserved on this format and people who want to rip the isolated track for themselves to listen to can legally do so.
Yavar
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I kinda hope so. Same thing happened with Ghost and the Darkness. Bah.
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Apr 9, 2016 - 9:49 PM
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That's good news about THE RUSSIA HOUSE coming out from TT. I like the movie and will buy it, but a complete score CD? Someone correct me if I'm wrong (as if I needed to ask), but I seem to recall a story of Goldsmith being somewhat unhappy with the original soundtrack CD release having already too much score on it back in the day. I own the CD and very much like the score, of course, but it is an awful lot of the main theme in cue after cue. I can see what Goldsmith was bothered by. I just wonder if maybe we fans need to respect Goldsmith a little more, and less our obsessions with his music and wanting every bit of it? I'm sure this has been debated before. I seem to recall something about Goldsmith not being that crazy about complete score releases of his work and letting Nick Redman know it. I'm often curious if Goldsmith was fine with all, including music not heard in the film, of PLANET OF THE APES being released? I know I'd be bothered if he didn't want it all released, because I'd want it all anyway. So, I can understand the desire for all of THE RUSSIA HOUSE -- if you're a huge fan of it -- but for me, the original CD was more than enough.
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No doubt there will be a complete isolated score track, so the complete score for this will be available at last!
yes, there's no doubt about it (that it will contain an isolated score option) but it's possible that this could contain effects, if the master tapes haven't been found, like some TT's blurays.
We will need to wait and confirm.
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Unnecessary expansion/Bullshit thread title: you decide.
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Y'know, if you don't care about the complete score to The Russia House coming out, why click on this thread?
If you do care about it coming out, I'd expect you'd be excited even if it's just as an isolated score. And this might just portend a CD release. As to whether an expansion is worthwhile, that's obviously up to personal taste. The author of the article I linked to feels that the score would play better and be *less* long-feeling in complete form because the missing cues are different material which would spice up the series of suspense cues that did make the previous album. I know I was very glad to get Kritzerland's complete Poltergeist II, which had only four missing cues to add over the previous expansion...or Breakheart Pass, which only had one missing cue to add...or Secret of NIMH, for which Intrada only found one of the several missing cues to add, but t was a good one. So even though there are only six missing cues for The Russia House, it's still a big deal to me that they're about to be legally released.
Now I know I'm a Goldsmith obsessed nut, but this was happy news that I thought was worthwhile to share with some of the other Goldsmith nuts on the board (of which there are many, as we all know). Why come to the thread just to shit on my little parade? Do you really feel my little news thread was that inappropriate? Detrimental to the board? Yeesh...
Yava
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Jeeze Yavar give it a bloody rest.
The damn thing was just announce and they probably haven't even figured out what elements are available and what they will do.
Every time a Goldsmith CD is announced you barely wait 5 minutes before asking for the next thing.
That may be true, but in this case I was sharing an announcement of an actual, upcoming thing. Not asking for the next thing. I know I've got a problem in my Goldsmith obsession but it's a pretty harmless one, don't you think?
As far as the elements go, so far no 90s Goldsmith scores have been reported lost (unless you perhaps count the rejected score to The Public Eye, if it was recorded as Mike Ross-Trevor claimed it was). I would be shocked if Twilight Time only had an M&E track for this one.
Yavar
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Yeah, you have no evidence of a CD coming out is the thing. This is why your thread title is bullshit. You are writing entirely too much about this.
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Apr 10, 2016 - 10:51 AM
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RoryR
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Yeah, you have no evidence of a CD coming out is the thing. This is why your thread title is bullshit. You are writing entirely too much about this.
It's not entirely bullshit, you nasty man. Back when ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES came out on Blu-ray it had the entire score isolated, a score never released except as a suite on Varese's CD of the original APES score. Guess who immediately ripped the tracks off the Blu-ray to make his own CD-R of the entire ESCAPE score? Have you guessed yet? Me, you nasty man! And then what happened a few months or a year or so later? Varese comes out with its official, complete ESCAPE score (unfortunately with too much uncorrected wow and such, but hey, "restore and remaster!" [Hear me, Varese! Hear me now!])!
So, "Yavar, the obsessed one" is not entirely wrong in getting excited about this coming Blu-ray, though I think it's still a slim chance that it leads to a new CD, but you never know. I'm not too excited about it, but that mostly has to do with how unexcited I am with isolated score tracks on Blu-rays in general. They're interesting, but you can't listen to them as you would a CD -- because they don't chapter stop them! They're a pain to skip around in. I still have yet to listen to the isolated score on TT's UNDER FIRE and I'm still in no hurry to do so. Lazy, I guess, and not as obsessed as "the obsessed one."
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A Goldsmith obsession is the best kind of obsession.
Well, besides Muppets and horror movies, I suppose.
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