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 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I'm guessing the answer is "yes," since the silly thing doesn't work anymore.

Luckily I only have about 2 dozen laser discs that will be out of commission, but I'm not crying any real tears (except maybe for the BROADWAY MELODY OF 193-something with Fred Astaire and Eleanor Powell).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I'm guessing the answer is "yes," since the silly thing doesn't work anymore.

Luckily I only have about 2 dozen laser discs that will be out of commission, but I'm not crying any real tears (except maybe for the BROADWAY MELODY OF 193-something with Fred Astaire and Eleanor Powell).


David,

Yes, but..

I have hung onto mine for years since it stopped working. I have since replaced all of the LD titles with probably both a DVD and a Blu Ray. But I have the gorgeous large box set of Lawrence of Arabia, and the even more gorgeous big box of Fantasia, and the pretty terrific large box 2001 A Space Odyssey.

I have no reason to hold on to the LD other than a misplaced love for old technology, and the lovely memories I have of playing Star Trek The Motion Picture and Bladerunner and all that, even silly nostalgia for flipping the discs. I recall watching that stuff on VHS for years, and finally playing it on LD, and my jaw hitting the floor.


 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Can the player, keep the LD's that aren't available in other formats. You could one day, legally I might add, have a company transfer them to DVD, BluRay or into Digital copies.

I still hold onto some old VHS and DVD's because their isn't an equivalent version on BluRay.

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

It's funny for me you two say your LD players don't work anymore. From the late '80s through to the early '2000s, I owned four LD players, the last being a Pioneer Elite player that held two discs with automatic side changing. It's cost me close to $1000. Yet, there wasn't one damn LD player that didn't eventually break and not run. It was the constant strain of spinning those big discs that did each in, and even when I had them repaired, they'd just break again. I can't recall how many LDs I bought over that decade, but it was at least 250 including several of the big boxed sets. I used to love LDs and get so excited about an upcoming release. I hung on to my broken players and LDs for many years after I got into DVDs, but when I finally had to move to another state to start a new job, I just couldn't see dragging those LDs with me. You know, a stack of them was as heavy as a stack of books. I didn't have time to try and sell them, and this was the end of 2006, so I didn't figure anyone would be interested. The best an LD can offer in the age of 16X9 HD TVs is 480i, and even though the TV will upscale it, it still looks pretty soft, and if it's a letterboxed transfer, as most of the movies I collected on LD were, the zooming in to fill the 16X9 TV makes it look even worse. Anyway, all my LDs ended up going into a dumpster and I guess are now rotting in a landfill someplace. I saved things out of the big boxed sets, books, scripts, even a soundtrack CD for THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, but everything else gone and pretty much long forgotten (until I come across a thread like this). I'm just glad I didn't spend more on LDs. I knew a guy who had two to three thousand LDs. Thankfully I had enough sense not to get too crazy with the collecting of them, and if I'd known how short the lifespan of the format would be, I'd have never gotten into them beyond a few "must-have" movies.

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I learned my lesson from the VHS/DVD days. I held back buying DVD's because I knew HD was right around the corner. (some ten years) But still, I purposely didn't buy a lot of DVD's when it was all the rage. Just waited for HD.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   PeterRandall   (Member)

I haven't posted in a long time, but I just had to jump in the old LD discussion! I still have a good stack of movies that we still watch! Back in December, we had a good old fashioned Star Wars Party - and my friends all insisted that we watch the original Star Wars - and I mean the 'original'! LD the only way to go these days! My player has been repaired x2, but it keeps on going - I fire it up occasionally to keep the gremlins out! But, I do believe it may be time to move on! Good luck with the decision!

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I learned my lesson from the VHS/DVD days. I held back buying DVD's because I knew HD was right around the corner. (some ten years) But still, I purposely didn't buy a lot of DVD's when it was all the rage. Just waited for HD.

I stopped buying LDs as soon as I saw the first DVD on display. It was so obviously superior. Then came anamorphic transfers, so I had to get a 16X9 CRT (couldn't afford the plasma flatscreens when they were two grand and up). Anamorphic DVDs were the best thing since sliced bread at that point. Then, thank goodness for Netflix. I was in movie heaven (for the most part). If there had only been a Netflix for LDs, but then, again, those discs were just too damn big.

If you want to revisit what it was like for a movie geek like me back in the days of LDs, watch FREE ENTERPRISE.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I never got into the laserdisc thing, but I have a friend who still is hanging on to several of his because there are commentaries or extras on some discs that he tells me have never been reissued on the DVD versions (he's discovered this on some Martin Scorsese films). I'm not sure if this is due to copyright issues, or if they just decided to go with different extras to get people to buy the DVD even if they had the LD. Of course, this doesn't mean anything if your player no longer works, but for others reading this thread who still have working players, you might want to check to see what is on those old discs before you decide to get rid of them.

When LDs first came out I couldn't afford them as a struggling grad student, and by the time I was in a position to buy them I had started hearing stories about how the glue on some discs was causing deterioration in the plastic that resulted in white speckles and other problems with the image. I seem to remember people complaining about this on one of the Blade Runner LDs. Anyone ever have problems with this, and for the people who still have players and use them, have you noticed any deterioration of the discs in recent years?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Anyone ever have problems with this, and for the people who still have players and use them, have you noticed any deterioration of the discs in recent years?


I still have plenty of laserdiscs. I'd say about 1-2% of them have some level of "laser rot." The Laserdisc Database (http://www.lddb.com/) has 5124 reports of rot on 3074 titles representing 1.06% of total collections.

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

I still have a Pioneer LD player and maybe 40-50 discs. I saw Delta Force 3 killing Game about a year ago on it and the player worked OK. I usually have my Laserdiscs as signing objects.
David Carradine (Lone Wolf McQuade), Kane Hodder (Friday the 13th part 8), Robert Englund (Elmstreet 1 "Elite"), David Warner (Time after time), Chris Sarandon (Fright night), Marc Singer (Beastmaster), Billy Dee Williams (Nighthawks), Doug Bradley (Hellraiser 3), Gunnar Hansen (TCM "Elite") and acouple of others signed

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

My laserdisc player crapped-out years ago, but I made sure to keep my CAV versions of "Dr. No", "From Russia With Love" and "Goldfinger" on Criterion. I don't know if they're really worth anything, but they're neat to have, as those discs disappeared so quickly, and I love James Bond.

Obviously, I also kept my "Star Wars" discs. Also kept "1776" (longer cut), "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" (Japanese Import with alternate ending + an American box set), "Jaws" (box set), "JFK" (theatrical cut, unavailable on DVD), "King Kong" (CAV Criterion) and "The Man Who Fell To Earth" (Criterion).


The Story of the demise of my LD Player is gross: Its innards turned to a blackish-green "goo", that ruined one of my discs one day, out of the blue. That thing went in the trash immediately....
frown

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2016 - 10:06 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

I was once a LaserDisc collector. I owned three LD players, and over 300 movies on LD.
One at a time, my players failed, and (just as it was said here earlier) could not be fully repaired.

I threw my LD players in the garbage, and sold ALL of my LaserDisc movies via eBAY and Craigslist. I earned most of my money back!

If you investigate eBAY, you'll find that there is still a healthy market for used LaserDiscs!

SELL 'EM!!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Metryq   (Member)

If you investigate eBAY, you'll find that there is still a healthy market for used LaserDiscs!

Agreed. I was fortunate enough to capture the one or two LDs in my collection that were not available in other formats. And I managed it before my players all keeled over.

In one rare exception, I made many times more selling LDs than what I had paid for them. I found cut-outs of two SPACE: 1999 discs in a Boston store. The series was not available on VHS, and the DVD release hadn't even been announced when I decided to sell the discs and get rid of my players.

I paid about $15 for both discs. I got lucky that the series pilot "Breakaway" and fan favorite "Dragon's Domain" were among the four episodes on the discs. It was a feeding frenzy on eBay, with the final bid at about $287. (I don't think the exact price is still in the eBay archive.)

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

In early 2003 I bought my first DVD recorder and although my last LD player was broken, I was able to borrow one from a friend and made copies of the ones I thought important enough to save. The old CAV King Kong from Criterion is only valuable now for its commentary track, it's transfer having long been ecliped, as is the case with all LD transfers.

That was one of the great things about laserdiscs -- no copy protection. For a few years back in the '90s, my local Blockbuster used to rent LDs and I made many a friend a VHS copy of movies that could only be seen letterboxed on LD, all the VHS cassettes being pan&scan. I never charged for the service, it was just "give me a blank VHS to make your copy."

But I have to tell you, I wouldn't go back to those days for anything. DVDs and now Blu-rays are so much cheaper than LDs used to be (the average LD was $40 with tax or shipping -- and many an LD I bought I only watched once! And I had FRIGHT NIGHT and it developed white specks throughout it from laser rot.) and the transfers now are not just HD but most often restored, that today is really the best of times.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

dp

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

RoryR, I had a couple discs go bad from Laser Rot as well, one being "Akira" on Criterion.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

RoryR, I had a couple discs go bad from Laser Rot as well, one being "Akira" on Criterion.

I probably had more but I've forgotten them. There was a pressing plant out in the mid-west someplace, I think it was called Technovision, they were the worst. If you got an LD pressed by them, you knew you were in for trouble. I used to hear horror stories of how unclean the clean rooms were. Anyway, it's ancient history now -- thank goodness!

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

It's funny for me you two say your LD players don't work anymore. From the late '80s through to the early '2000s, I owned four LD players, the last being .......

I like your posts, so please Rory, do us the favor of using smaller paragraphs in these long posts. Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I'm not seeing much in favor of keeping the player, so.....

Probably the only discs I have that are "loaded" are probably

AMADEUS
ALIEN
ALIENS

But I think the ALIEN extras were programmed into the dvd extras, so that's a loss....

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2016 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

It's funny for me you two say your LD players don't work anymore. From the late '80s through to the early '2000s, I owned four LD players, the last being .......

I like your posts, so please Rory, do us the favor of using smaller paragraphs in these long posts. Thanks.


Oh. my! Such a thing never occurred to me. Anyway, I'm tapped out on this subject. I just wanted to say the only LD I have transferred to a DVD-R that I still care about is COLOSSUS: THE FORBIN PROJECT. It was shot in Panavision and was fully letterboxed on LD, but when Universal put it out on Blu-ray they pan&scanned it!

I just put it on my 40" LED TV upscaled to 1080p in a Blu-ray player and then zoomed to get the letterboxed image to meet the sides of the screen. Yeah, looks soft, too soft.

The old LD transfers are really worthless now.

 
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