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 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

A cold wet Saturday afternoon flicking through telly and noticed ITV showing Richard Donner's Fantatsic version of Superman so thought I'd watch a few minutes.

Imagine my suprise when I discovered that, not only is it the extended version, it has even more footage than I have ever seen before. Loads of additional /extended scenes including a LOT of stuff in the Daily Planet (with a terrific little bit of business between Clark and Jimmy Olsen), a lovely moment between Brando and Reeve, and even an inhanced soundtrack with additional background dialogue that I've never heard before.

As a huge fan of Donner's movie since the first time I saw it, I was convinced I'd seen ever version and every deleted scene but this is simply eye opening! I haven't watched the blu Ray extended cut in quite a while but I'm pretty sure my memory isn't playing tricks on me and that I am seeing stuff I've never seen before - and good stuff, too!

I haven't made notes but I'm recording it so will watch it again and write up all the stuff I've not seen before - but there really is a lot of "new" footage!

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Seems, Superman: The Movie got the "Lucas" treatment. There was a longer version on broadcast television, and then they totally fracked up the audio for the DVD presentation. Not sure what other versions there are. I think the BluRay is the original theatrical version.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Three longer versions of SUPERMAN have been released since the original 143-minute theatrical cut:

1. A 188-minute "Salkind International Extended Cut", originally prepared for worldwide television distribution by Alexander Salkind's company (this was done to get more money on the sales of the film for television; Alexander Salkind charged stations and networks by the minute in order to earn greater profit), this version is commonly called the "KCOP Version" because its first known domestic airing was on L.A. station KCOP in 1994.

2. A 182-minute version aired on ABC (derived from the earlier Alexander Salkind television cut).

3. A digitally restored 151-minute director's cut prepared by director Richard Donner in 2000 (and released the following year on DVD).

The extended versions contain footage and music not used in the theatrical version, but the television edits have more material than the 2000 restoration, including extensions of the destruction of Krypton, Smallville, Fortress of Solitude, Daily Planet and earthquake scenes.

There is also a shorter version: When Superman was released to VHS in June 1979 by Warner Home Video, it was whittled down to 127 minutes. This was done because of the lack of longer playing tapes at the time. This edited VHS version is sixteen minutes shorter than the original 1978 Theatrical release (at 143 min.) and twenty-four minutes shorter than the 2001 Director's Cut (at 151 min.). No actual material was cut from this release, instead scenes with no dialogue and the opening credits were sped up. Another major difference included the deletion of the film's original closing credits. We see the copyright notice from the original closing credits followed by a Chryon version of the credits from a trailer for the film, followed by the "Next Year: Superman II (1980)" tag (from the original closing credits) and then a copyright disclaimer. Warner Bros. did not release a full length, unedited copy of the movie until 1983 when a 144 minute cut of the film was issued.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . not only is it the extended version, it has even more footage than I have ever seen before . . .

I haven't made notes but I'm recording it so will watch it again and write up all the stuff I've not seen before - but there really is a lot of "new" footage!



If it has more footage than YOU'VE seen before, it sounds like something I've got to see. I look forward to future posts on this subject.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

The closing credits of the film have a credit for "Man on Golf Course". I don't recall any golf course in the film, so I've always wondered whether that was some remnant of a deleted scene. Anyone know anything about this?

Anyway, I've always wanted to have the television version of this film --- one of my favorites --- ever since it first aired so many years ago, but every time I tried to catch it to tape it, it just turned out to be the standard 143 minute cut.... frown

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Somebody should record this off ITV.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Somebody should record this off ITV.

Mike_J was taping it, I believe.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2016 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Somebody should record this off ITV.

Mike_J was taping it, I believe.


Using his Betamax video recorder??

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2016 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I watched it too - but I must admit I didn't notice anything that wasn't in the Extended Blu-Ray/DVD Edition.....very happy to be proved wrong!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2016 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

The closing credits of the film have a credit for "Man on Golf Course". I don't recall any golf course in the film, so I've always wondered whether that was some remnant of a deleted scene. Anyone know anything about this?(

I can answer this - there is a deleted scene where, just after the two missiles go off course, a special phone rings on a golf buggy and it is answered by a Secret Service who then calls out to the President (who is unseen in a bunker) and says it is The Pentagon calling. This ties into an earlier deleted scene where the General (played by Bruce Boa) says "Get me The President".

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2016 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Thanks, Mike_J!

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2016 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Somebody should record this off ITV.

Mike_J was taping it, I believe.


Using his Betamax video recorder??


I don't recall Mike ever being into Betamax big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2016 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The closing credits of the film have a credit for "Man on Golf Course". I don't recall any golf course in the film, so I've always wondered whether that was some remnant of a deleted scene. Anyone know anything about this?(
-----------------------------
I can answer this - there is a deleted scene where, just after the two missiles go off course, a special phone rings on a golf buggy and it is answered by a Secret Service who then calls out to the President (who is unseen in a bunker) and says it is The Pentagon calling. This ties into an earlier deleted scene where the General (played by Bruce Boa) says "Get me The President".



That explains why the name of the character in that scene is "Agent."

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2017 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Well this is a surprise... Warner Archives has announced the legendary 188 minute Salkind International cut for bluray.

https://www.facebook.com/warnerarchive/photos/a.275238161562.177744.205910361562/10155716898496563/?type=3&theater

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2017 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)


I've only seen the original film. So I ask you, THOR, which edition would you recommend? 'Director's Cut' or 'Extended T.V. Edition'?wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2017 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Well I haven't seen the three hour cut either but I find the 2000 Director's Cut to be perfectly acceptable.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2017 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I'd be all in for this on Blu-Ray! smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2017 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Well this is a surprise... Warner Archives has announced the legendary 188 minute Salkind International cut for bluray.

https://www.facebook.com/warnerarchive/photos/a.275238161562.177744.205910361562/10155716898496563/?type=3&theater



I'm looking for a street date on this. When does it become available. It's not even mentioned at Amazon or the Warner Archives store.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2017 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

I have thd blu ray box set as it was cheap and had lots of interesting extras. I'd be interested in getting this. I'd never heard of this extended edition.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2017 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Sooo... expanded Blue Box then?

I kid, I kid...

 
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